Just out of curiousity, you guys that say to stay away from certification, do you verify the terminations in any way? visually or cheap wire mapper? Or do you just hope you dont get a call back if and when one of the lines doesn't work because of a flopped pair or some other repairable human error? For me it just makes me feel good to know that I can walk away from a job and I know all links are ready to go also makes me look a lot better when a customer builds his network and everything hooks up flawlessly and they have confidence in my work after that and don't have any apprehensions about using me in the future.