ITO thanks for your response. It's a great help. I have been charging 20% for mark up on materials only and no other mark up, and it comes up a little more compared to your 10 and 5 or a little less than your 15 and 10. Of course if I stayed with my 20% and then took 10% it would be more. And to help cover expenses, I may have to. On the jobs of coarse that you just give a price, you have the option of making more Or less Thanks Steve..