I've been using Electrical Bid Manager by Visions as well. Have so for 7 years now. Actually the comapany I just left stepped up and bought their newest and greatest version Bid manager 2000. I tried it a few times and went back to the old bid manager. When we first shopped for a computer estimating program I demo'ed just about every one you mentioned. They all seemed great but the cost were so much higher, and all the extras features only left room for mistakes. I have customized the program to my taste, and now am completely confident in any bid I do. I have found the labor units provided with the program do not work well in Resid. construction. But we do mostly commercial work. We recently finished a 4 year renovation project with a $1.3 million contract I took off on visions. I myself was shocked when a ran a finsihed job cost report and only missed the actual labor by less than 40 hours.