TIIS IS GOOD SO ALL THE HOMEOWNERS CAN KNOW HOW TO SAVE MONEY AND DO THEIR OWN INSTALLATIONS,HIDE THIS STUFF THE DEPO IS TELLING TOO MUTCH,BESIDES IT SHOULD ALL BE IN PVC,LONG ISLAND,IS MY HOMELAND,ALL I USE IS PVC ,NO SEU,ONLY ON THE BOTTOM AND ITS PROTECTED BY SCH 80 PVC MINIMUM THE DO IT YOURSELF LOGO SHOULD BE SHUT DOWN OR WE WILL BE OUT OF BUISNESS....