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Tony I am not going to respond to your entire rant.

Who's ranting? [Linked Image] I'm trying to point out what a lot of us appear to be seeing that you may not be seeing. But you seem unwilling to admit that we all have different backgrounds, each area may have the local amendments that you pointed out in one of your replies to me, and finally you still haven't provided a direct Code reference as to the specific violation in this case. Alan mentions 410.8.b, which would disallow an open trim in a closet.

But, the OP still hasn't clarified as to what this space is called out as in the plans. If, despite it's physical size, it is called out on the reviewed, approved by the AHJ plans as a closet, then I can agree that it must use enclosed trims or fluorescents. If it is called out as anything else (dressing room, dressing suite, etc.), and approved by the building and safety dept as shown in said plans, then by following the strictest interpretation of the Code, then a standard recessed trim of any type should be allowed to pass.

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You need to read the second post in this thread.


I did and agree that that would not be the correct approach to take. But again, in this case, there is no clear evidence of a violation in the first place. I do not condone willful violations of Code either. And I don't think that person intended it to read as such.

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Remember inspectors are rarely the AHJ, don't let them snow ya.

I just re-read Arts. 90 and 100 of my '99 NEC, and there is nothing there saying that the inspector is not the AHJ.

Now can you or someone here (Alan, perhaps?) define AHJ since the Code doesn't?

Seems that by your reasoning, we've all been snowed for a long time. [Linked Image]

And in this area, the inspector is most certainly the AHJ.

Stupid should be painful.