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Electra:
Only when of metal, these were nonmetallic raceways.
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sparky, I don't know...... I thought bonding was pretty clear.
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Websparky, so did i until it was debated on the net, theory, intent and definition clash.
quite interesting to hear from those in the know.
not all bonding is grounded, so how would one identify this?
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The picture is a good illustration that practices and materials vary widely from place to place. IMO, those aluminum clamps look right-out scuzzy. A decent fault would probably send those through the concrete. You know, there hasn’t been a new cable color in years… How about if we submit a proposal for clear GEC insulation for the 2008 Code? ;-)
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Joe,
You hurt me by being required to cite the NEC.
Would you look at:
1992 TCR, page 176, Log # 703, Proposal 5-206 ?
Personnally, since it is not addressed in the NEC, I would say a covered or insulated GEC can be any color available to mark the GEC with.
Seems to violate 200.6 if White or Gray is used.
Just go back to the CMP partial statement of " Panel does not believe there is a need for identification by color - - -." , so white and gary can also be used for the GEC.
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"Just go back to the CMP partial statement of " Panel does not believe there is a need for identification by color - - -." "
Exactly!! Much ado about nothing.
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How about a sticker that says "GEC" or "To ground electrode"?
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Here's an image from the JATC 2002 NEC Update, and they show a green, bare, and "gray" GEC! OK, I am willing to accept the color green PS: Paul Coxwell, I am sorry for the out of line comments I made on the other thread .... please forgive me!
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Joe, Apology accepted, no hard feelings. I'm just trying to interpret what I've read in the NEC from an outsider's point of view.
Not directly relevant to the specific query, but by way of passing interest, our "code" in Britain has for many years explicitly specified that only the color green (later green/yellow) may be used for the GEC. That's the same as for equipment grounding conductors.
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