Well I think a "group rant" can be enlightening. Doctrinaire safety talk is meaningless without the war stories that make it real. Hopefully we who have experienced what happens by doing things "old school" can enlighten the ones who are a bit greener.
As an apprentice instructor for 5 yrs, I wasn't given the green light to teach the "realities" of the trade practices -past and future- because of fears that I would possibly be positively sanctioning the old ways, merely by letting the apprentices know how it was done! So they learn this stuff on the job without the full picture, or they figure it out on their own, and think they can endear themselves to the company by cutting corners.