It doesnt seem to me that the price for that is to far out. Im just starting out with my own company and I havent been very succesful with my estimates so far but Im still learning. I refuse to do jobs unless it covers my calculated hourly rate. I have also been calculating my hours based on the amount of time it takes for a employee to perform the work rather than how long it would take me to do it. I have noticed since going into business for my self that I am much more productive than when I was a employee.If you can't make good profits than why bother.Mahlere is there really any job that you would bid 4 hrs? Seems to me nothing can be done in 4 hrs. I havent been very busy but every job I have done so far has been quite profitable.