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Posted By: sparky66wv Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 03:31 AM
Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later... Actually, I was impressed that we roughed in a whole house without a mishap, but...

We were trimming the KOs out of siding blocks today, being a job I really don't like, trying to cut cold hard plastic...

Not having much luck, scarred the first block on the visible part while trying to cut it, cracked another one, then it happened.

Jimmy was holding his thumb up and the blood started to pour...

Well, I jump up and run to the truck to get the first aid kit, he follows me out. I pull out an alcohol pad and open it and give it to Jimmy to clean his thumb, while I start to tear open one to clean my hands, and... down he goes into the mud... eyes rolled back, mouth gaped open... Well crap, he fainted... So I lift his head out of the mud, say his name a few times, and he comes to, but is confused and puts his injured hand right into the mud...

I finally get him up and into the cab of the truck and he's white as a sheet, complaining that he needs to poop, pee, and vomit, but has apparently forgotten about the thumb I'm trying to dress.

I let him do his thing, he starts to get his senses back, sits down and lets me finish dressing his thumb. Covered in mud, confused to the point I'm suspecting concussion, and looking like hell, I figure I better take him home...

Swears up and down it doesn't need stitches, but I may insist he goes in tomorrow to have it looked at...

What a day... [Linked Image]

I did warn him several months ago that cuts were our number one hazard, getting shocked actually being lower on the list...



[This message has been edited by sparky66wv (edited 03-06-2003).]
Posted By: txsparky Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 04:04 AM
Hello 66, Good to hear from you again.

Hate to hear of any accidents. [Linked Image] Hope Jimmy will be O.K. Getting cuts seem to be a pretty common occurence in the trade.I know that I have had my share of them.Most often when it's cold and the insulation is stiff on larger wires.
Usually when dealing with a stubborn plastic k.o I opt for a cordless drill and a holesaw. [Linked Image] Saves alot of frustration.

[This message has been edited by txsparky (edited 03-06-2003).]
Posted By: frenchelectrican Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 04:49 AM
hello 66:

this one of my trick i deal with vinil siding that one is use the hair dryer to make it soft or use over size propane heater ( infraed kind) and the other one is use the battiey powered (cordless) skillsaw type and put the blade backward (that prevent sliding shattered but unforely that true cut is numer one item we have deal i have few cuts myself also one from sideing the other one from big 750 kmcm wire grrrrr
anytime i deal with the knife i use hevey leather glove that seems help alot and i have 2 first aid boxes in my truck

merci marc
Posted By: Trumpy Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 05:13 AM
Cuts are a real nuisance, especially if it's a really deep cut.
It pays to get any deep cut stitched as soon as possible.
As any first aid course will tell you, if you have to drive an injured co-worker to the medical centre, keep them talking, this will make sure that they do not pass out and die from shock. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Bill Addiss Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 05:48 AM
Virgil,

Do you mean the Fixture Blocks?
I've always used a pair of Tin Snips (aka Aviation Snips) for cutting the plastic and vinyl stuff. I have a Left-cut, Right-cut and a straight-cut. Don't leave home without them.

[Linked Image from hand-tools-power-tools.com]

Bill
Posted By: smokumchevy Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 11:16 AM
Cuts are deff a pain (pardon the pun), and happen so often that going to the clinic or hospital every time is just not an option for me.

Hence, my pouch carries a small bottle of peroxide, crazy glue, electrical tape and serviettes, lol... wash it, wipe it, glue it, cover it & tape it....

Now, get back to work, lol.....

Hope your guy turned out alright, we can't all be tough 'CANADIANS' (just ribbing!!)

-Greg
Posted By: sparky Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 11:41 AM
Jimmy suffered a little phsycogenic aftereffect eh? , quite common in fact...

It's good you were there for him Virgil, next time don't let him look at the injury if you are able.

~S
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 04:33 PM
I guess some people just can't stand to look at blood...especially their own.

I've never understood it...so to me it always seemed a bit weird. But it's a fact of life....

Hope it wasn't serious. I once got gashed in the arm with a broken glass lamp shade (those green bankers lamps).

I was removing the lampholder from said lamp (to keep as a spare for another lamp). My arm slipped and landed across the broken edge of glass....slice.

It was about a millimeter deep and about 4 centimeters long...nice precise incision. Gauze, tape and anti-microbial pomade fixed it. [Linked Image]
Posted By: Scotts Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 06:29 PM
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"I let his do his thing" I bet you had to do your own thing after that experience.

Did Jimmy go to the doctor? If he did then you may need to record it on an OSHA form. It is nnnooooo big deal. Just a form of documentation. Speaking of that you should write own everything that happened and file it away. CYA these days. Not trying to say anything bad about Jimmy.

Scott
Posted By: Pearlfish Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/07/03 07:01 PM
NO NOT JIMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Yes, I was stealing a line from The Simpsons)

But seriously, Tell him that we all wish him a speedy recovery.

Steve
Posted By: sparky Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/08/03 12:57 AM
I think i've patched up more roofers than anything else on the job, grizzly lot that they are [Linked Image]
One foreman admonished his wounded crewman bellerin'
"You weren't hired leaking were ya"
Posted By: ga.sparky56 Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/08/03 01:22 AM
Virgil,i hope Jimmy does ok. Good helpers are hard to find these days. We use spiral cut drill bits in a battery drill or aviation snips as Bill does.
Posted By: Scott35 Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/08/03 06:06 AM
Virgil,

Like Steve said, glad you were there when the blood started pouring. Poor guy (Jimmy).

Steel Studs and 2 x 4 Fluorescent Troffers are the top cutters of flesh on my end.

Ran a few people to the Emergency Room due to cuts from these items.
Can still picture the pools of blood all over the slabs!

Scott35 S.E.T.
Posted By: sparky Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/08/03 10:36 AM
Gotta give you credit Virgil, at least you had a first aid kit!
Posted By: JCooper Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/10/03 04:20 PM
As a low voltage tech I spend a lot of time in drop ceilings, my worst enemy are the cut ends of the 1/4" al bars they use to hang mounting brackets on, the nice sharp cut end has a knack for ending up in my scalp. When around the house every now and then, usually when I am trying to finish up fast, the box cutter vs thumb while cutting NM wins.

Final score - Box cutter 2, Thumb 0

Jim
Posted By: SvenNYC Re: Cuts: Our number one hazard - 03/10/03 04:50 PM
JCooper,

I'd suggest using a hard hat or a pitcher's helmet if you're working inside a plenum....scalp cuts are nasty....especially when you get hair in them. And who knows what kind of nasty stuff is living on that crap in those ceilings. [Linked Image]

Ditto to cut NM cable....what about using a cable ripper and side cutters instead of a box cutter?
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