ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#98463 - 12/16/04 04:54 AM ROC & ROP explained?
mweaver Offline
Junior Member
Registered: 11/16/04
Posts: 6
Loc: Salina Ks, 67401
I have my new analysis of changes for 2005 and it discusses ROP & ROC in the forward (I think). I thought these stood for report on Comments and Report on Proposals for the upcoming NEC.

Is there a simple & concise way to explain just what these are?

Are they available for free in pdf and would I even want them?

2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides
#98464 - 12/16/04 03:59 PM Re: ROC & ROP explained?
rmiell Offline
Registered: 11/09/00
Posts: 242
Loc: La Junta, Co. USA
After the deadline passes for changes to the code, the NFPA publishes all the proposals, along with committee responses (accept, not accepted, accepted in principal, along with a few other replies). This book (ROP) is sent out to everyone who sent in a code change proposal, and is available online (on the NFPA web site, or NECdirect site, I think).

After a certain time passes, the committees meet again to consider all the comments sent in to them, concerning the proposals. Again they either vote the change in, out, or whatever. They then publish another book, with all their replies to each comment. They also include a draft of the new code, just like you would receive if you bought it that day.

Then there is a big get-together of the committees to vote in the changes, and approve the new code.

If you sent in a code change proposal, it is kind of neat to see what the committees thought of your proposal. Both books are good for reference, after the code comes into effect. You can look back at a code rule and see why it was changed. That helps in understanding what the code is saying (or not, whichever is the case!!).

You can see the deadlines for cade changes proposals, as well as the dates when the ROP and ROC will be sent out, in the back of the code book.

Note: The deadline for changes to the 2005 NEC is November 2005. Not much time to find out there may be a problem in a code rule.

I can say one thing for sure, if you do not provide back up for your argument, you will not convince them to change a code rule. Substantiate your concerns, provide examples, and you may have a chance. Just don't say something like, "I don't like blue wire being used on a 120volt circuit".

Most State chapters of the IAEI will help you in your proposals, if you send it to them 1st. The bad thing about this is then the Chapter will be the one who submits the change proposal, not you. but they will help in getting the wording in the right direction.

Hope this helps.

Rick Miell

PS: The front of the code book has all the names of the committee members. Look though them, you may find someone you know on one!
#98465 - 12/16/04 07:49 PM Re: ROC & ROP explained?
resqcapt19 Offline
Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2148
Loc: IL
The ROP and ROC for the 2002 code and the ROP for the 05 code are available for download here .

Member Spotlight
Member Since: 02/23/13
Posts: 204
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box

Who's Online
2 registered (Admin, sparkyinak), 74 Guests and 9 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Top Posters (30 Days)
Admin 49
HotLine1 43
gfretwell 18
Ruben Rocha 12
Trumpy 9
Newest Members
Freecrowder, clee512, Jdscott2005, FAIZAN, Regitest2

ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals