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#86934 - 12/23/03 09:53 PM SPA / GFI
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If an outdoor residential spa has a built in GFI, does it need a GFI breaker at the Panel feeding it? Does it need a disconnect near the spa when the panel is not in with site?
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#86935 - 12/24/03 08:46 AM Re: SPA / GFI
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according to 680-40 for outdoor spas it sends you to 680 parts A and B. 680-12 states that a disconnecting means shall be provided and accessible within sight of all pools, spas, and hot tubs and shall be at least 5 feet from the wall. As for the gfi requirement, in my area a gfci breaker is required but I cant find the article. I dont know if this is a local thing or in the nec. hope this helps.

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#86936 - 12/24/03 08:56 AM Re: SPA / GFI
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Yeah, I couldn't find the GFI requirement either. Thanks for your help.
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#86937 - 12/24/03 09:54 AM Re: SPA / GFI
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Check out 680.44. If I'm not mistaken, a listed spa package with integral GFCI protection is permitted without GFCI protection on the branch circuit or the outlet serving the spa.
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#86938 - 12/24/03 10:26 AM Re: SPA / GFI
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the disco is something that needs to be within sight of the motor, as some tub motors are not intergral to the tub ( as in commercial settings) an E-stop for the serving motor is to be placed within sight of the tub. (from the hip, this might be 680.41)

isn't it interesting that , a permanent hardwired pool should not require a GFI , where most hot tubs & spas are listed for them?

must be something to do with the bonding eh?

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#86939 - 12/24/03 10:30 AM Re: SPA / GFI
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Yep, you would think an in-ground pool would need a GFI for the pump motor. The pool light has one.
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