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#43954 - 10/25/04 08:00 PM BUSTED
Dave55 Offline
Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 697
Loc: Crystal Lake, Illinois, USA
I've had a builder call me once every 2 weeks about an addition in town. First he wants to know if I'm bonded with the city and will I bid on it...(faxes a print)...I call with a question...2 weeks before he calls back...then I want to see the location of the service and the route to the addition (maybe tomorrow he says)...2 weeks go by...then can I come tomorrow.

This guy is really acting goofy, and I have this feeling in my gut that he put my name on the permit. So...I call my buddy at the building department to find out if he did put my name on the permit. I still haven't bid it because I have a general rule that if someone is goofy in the early going, it isn't going to be any better working with them. Anyway, the inspector calls back and my name IS on the permit. He's going to have a word with him and check out his lies.

My first lawyer (may he rest in peace) told me before I went in business that generals are the most friendly, personable people you'd ever want to meet, but they all lie to get what they want.

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#43955 - 10/25/04 08:42 PM Re: BUSTED
e57 Offline
Registered: 05/27/03
Posts: 2876
Loc: S.F.,CA USA
Icky! Make him sweat! No, make him bleed!
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#43956 - 10/25/04 09:06 PM Re: BUSTED
LK Offline
Registered: 01/21/03
Posts: 1429
Loc: New Jersey
I don't know where you are located, In my area you need a seal on the permit, or the AHJ will not accept it. No contract No seal.
#43957 - 10/26/04 01:19 PM Re: BUSTED
John Steinke Offline
Registered: 04/03/01
Posts: 518
Loc: Reno,Nv., USA
I'd consider filing a criminal forgery complaint, and a complaint with the contractors' board. Then- refuse to deal with the sob.
#43958 - 10/26/04 05:48 PM Re: BUSTED
Active 1 Offline
Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 687
Loc: Grayslake IL, USA
What company was it?

Something like the happend to me with a guy in Crystal Lake Dream Home Builders. Bid out a job in Lake Forest. Pulled permit. Kept hearing the job was delayed. Had someone go by and said it looked done. Called the building department. Still had my name on it with a final sceduled. They just said they would tag it until someone elce filed a permit. Not enough is done to prevent this. After this I will not give a copy of or licence numbers to anyone except the building department.

#43959 - 10/26/04 08:43 PM Re: BUSTED
Attic Rat Offline
Registered: 12/14/03
Posts: 524
Loc: Bergen Co.,N.J. USA
... Dave,I had a similar thing happen not too long ago,..although this time,the perpetrator was a H.O.,and it wasn't me who caught the slime-ball it was the Inspector,who,..(thank God)knew me,as well as my work.. He got a nice $2500.00 fine,and had to open all of the walls up to show the wiring... What goes around comes around!!
.."if it ain't fixed,don't break a Licensed Electrician"
#43960 - 10/27/04 04:21 PM Re: BUSTED
DougW Offline
Registered: 06/08/03
Posts: 1143
Loc: North Chicago, IL
My old employer had this happen as well (OK, a variation)

They filed the permit, and installed a temp service to the site. Got into a "discussion" concerning $15k in payment owed by the GC for previous job. EC told him "until I get paid for what has been completed (and sold), no work on the new site".

Well, one day, my foreman drove by the job site, and saw "Electrical Company X" on the site. He stopped by the AHJ, and... oops! They must have forgotten to pull a permit when they scabbed, err uhh "took over" the rough-in.

Luckily, our company was on good terms with the AHJ - he went over and wound up red tagging the whole site for "permit review" for a week or two...
#43961 - 10/27/04 04:39 PM Re: BUSTED
SteveMc Offline
Registered: 02/05/04
Posts: 62
Loc: Rock Hill, SC
I'm not sure about other states, but in South Carolina your license number is available online at the state web site. Just type in a name and the site will display all licenses held by the individual and the level of the license.

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#43962 - 10/29/04 03:09 PM Re: BUSTED
Dave55 Offline
Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 697
Loc: Crystal Lake, Illinois, USA
I haven't heard anything back from this guy. I increased my bid 20% since this guy is squirrely. He's either getting someone else, or we're in another 2 week space. It may have made enough of an impact on the building dept. that they'll call to confirm the contractors on permits before they issue them.


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