The Electrical Contractor Network

ECN Electrical Forum
Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals

Books, Tools and Test Equipment for Electrical and Construction Trades

Register Now!

Register Now!

We want your input!

Featured:
   

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

   
Recent Posts
Live Chat Feature
by Trumpy
01/20/17 06:20 PM
Safety at heights?
by gfretwell
01/19/17 07:16 PM
failed home inspection.
by gfretwell
01/19/17 07:03 PM
Webmaster > Admin
by Admin
01/19/17 05:49 PM
Old Bath Fan
by gfretwell
01/19/17 01:38 AM
New in the Gallery:
Desk-mounted "power-board"
Top Posters (30 Days)
Admin 33
HotLine1 20
Ruben Rocha 17
Trumpy 15
gfretwell 15
Who's Online
2 registered (Admin, Trumpy), 34 Guests and 9 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#213971 - 09/15/14 08:04 AM Distance of Spa GFI Breaker and gas line outdoors
cdnrebel Offline
New Member

Registered: 06/17/13
Posts: 5
Loc: canada
I have to run 8/3 from the panel to a spa pack outdoors for a spa. My concern is locating the Spa Pack beside the gas line that comes from in the house to the BBQ. It is limited where I can bring the wire to the outside. I do not see anything in the Canadian Code. Maybe a gas code? Any thoughts?

Top
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades
Arc Flash Clothing, Gloves, KneePads, Tool Belts, Pouches, Tool Carriers, etc. etc....

#213972 - 09/15/14 10:19 AM Re: Distance of Spa GFI Breaker and gas line outdoors [Re: cdnrebel]
gfretwell Offline


Member

Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 9065
Loc: Estero,Fl,usa
I have never seen any requirements for separation in the electric or gas codes.
_________________________
Greg Fretwell

Top
#213976 - 09/15/14 11:03 PM Re: Distance of Spa GFI Breaker and gas line outdoors [Re: cdnrebel]
renosteinke Offline
Cat Servant
Member

Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
This is an example of where the exact wording of the various codes matters.

Your gas utility will have it's codes posted on the internet. A typical requirement will be that anything that sparks (like a breaker) has to be at least 3 ft (straight line, any angle) from anything that vents gas (lie a regulator).

I would assume that a GFCI sparks when it opens a circuit under load. I would assume that a simple gas line does N OT vent gas; therefore, there is no spacing required.

Top
#213978 - 09/16/14 06:40 AM Re: Distance of Spa GFI Breaker and gas line outdoors [Re: cdnrebel]
HotLine1 Offline


Member

Registered: 04/03/02
Posts: 6832
Loc: Brick, NJ USA
Based on the description from the OP, I see no problem with the location as described.

As Reno said, there is NO direct reference within the codes.

Please keep in mind that the OP is from Canada, and all of the responses are from US guys.

_________________________
John

Top
#213980 - 09/16/14 05:35 PM Re: Distance of Spa GFI Breaker and gas line outdoors [Re: cdnrebel]
mbhydro Offline
Member

Registered: 02/21/03
Posts: 344
Loc: Winnipeg MB Canada
Looking at the Manitoba gas rules and the illustration shows that there can't be anything within 1 meter (3 ft) of the gas regulator. It appears to be based on CSA code so it should be the same across Canada.

If its just the pipe I don't see any restrictions but probably best to just call the local inspection office and have the gas / plumbing inspector confirm.

Top
#213983 - 09/16/14 11:27 PM Re: Distance of Spa GFI Breaker and gas line outdoors [Re: cdnrebel]
Potseal Offline
Member

Registered: 02/23/13
Posts: 204
Loc: Saskatchewan
CEC 2-234 Electrical equipment near combustible gas equipment

When installed outdoors, arc producing electrical equipment shall not be installed within 1m of the discharge of a combustible gas relief device or vent.
_________________________
A malfunction at the junction

Top


ECN Electrical Forums - sponsored by Electrical Contractor Network - Electrical and Code Related Discussion for Electrical Contractors, Electricians, Inspectors, Instructors, Engineers and other related Professionals