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#199703 - 03/05/11 01:50 AM No spares... yer hooped
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What would you do if a residential customer wanted an new 120V dedicated circuit but panel is full?..... of tandems.

Pretend they don't want any added/upgraded panels.




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#199704 - 03/05/11 04:13 AM Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8]
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Walk away.... fast!!!
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#199706 - 03/05/11 07:03 AM Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8]
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Can you pull two circuits out of the panel and combine them into one circuit?

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#199710 - 03/05/11 11:44 AM Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8]
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Subpanel ??? This is always a problem in older houses with a kitchen reno.
things like mircrowave hood combos dish washers that were hacked into the laundry plug in the basement, fridge relocate new counters that need more counter plugs now etc.

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#199718 - 03/05/11 04:55 PM Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: wire_twister]
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laugh ... Ya...

If you stay reallllly still, they might forget...
then you can steal all their cookies!

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#199719 - 03/05/11 04:56 PM Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: twh]
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You can...

This isn't a real situation for me... just gettin some input.

It's a good idea, load permitting ofcourse.

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#199721 - 03/05/11 09:14 PM Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8]
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Oh, its a hypothetical question. Run an extension cord to the neighbor's separate circuit outside plug. No one ever tripped over a hypothetical extension cord.

Actually, this problem comes up a lot. It's the reason the DIY stores sell SJ cord by the foot.

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#199727 - 03/06/11 04:34 AM Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: twh]
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smile

Ya it does come up a lot.

Can't really win either way... I mean it can be safe, especially if you fed the 2 circuits with a #12 (or #10 if it's an FP panel)
But running away is a little nicer for the pains.

Though I still raise an eyebrow when I dedicate a dining room plug. I can't remember anyone using it for something other than a lamp or phone, if anything.

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#199743 - 03/06/11 03:42 PM Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8]
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I would say you can't answer this question without a load calculation.
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#199744 - 03/06/11 04:20 PM Re: No spares... yer hooped [Re: pooL8]
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Greg, in Canada we can put 12 outlets on a 15 amp circuit. When a panel is full, sometimes it's because every electrician ran a new feed for every new outlet. Then, we can pull two circuits out and combine them on one 15 amp breaker.

The dining room plug is outdated. I haven't seen a toaster on a dining room table for 30 years.

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