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#169158 - 09/27/07 05:02 PM Residential question
steve ancient apprentice Offline

Registered: 03/04/05
Posts: 170
Loc: west springfield,mass
As most of you know i do very little resi work but today i came accross in a attic j-box 5 neutrals and 5 neutrals spliced together with a single # 12 neutral as a jumper between the two. although properley rated for the 20 amp ccircut is this permissible? I am very concerned as this is the bosses license going on this job. I will talk to him tomorrow and the inspecction on our work is monday but you thoughts and comments are apprecciated . This is a 1950s prefab house which we did the service changeover & a new garage. I opened the box cause i found 3 romex cables going into one connector.A violation in itself. Eagle eyes with Bi-focals. Thanks gang. Always Steve

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#169164 - 09/27/07 08:25 PM Re: Residential question [Re: steve ancient apprentice]
Tiger Offline

Registered: 05/04/05
Posts: 714
Loc: Crystal Lake, IL USA
Usually connections are made like this to fit the wire nuts. I don't know of any violation. Personally, I'd put them all together with a split bolt.


#169169 - 09/28/07 03:27 AM Re: Residential question [Re: Tiger]
SteveFehr Offline

Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1192
Loc: Chesapeake, VA
If it's all fed from the same 20A circuit and connections made per UL listings, it shouldn't be a problem. Now, box fill and wire nut rating might come into play, too... how many #12 is a red nut listed for? Are they all securely in the nuts?

#169181 - 09/28/07 08:23 AM Re: Residential question [Re: SteveFehr]
gfretwell Offline


Registered: 07/20/04
Posts: 9026
Loc: Estero,Fl,usa
Sounds more like a place for a blue one.
Greg Fretwell

#169187 - 09/28/07 09:21 AM Re: Residential question [Re: gfretwell]
JValdes Offline

Registered: 06/03/07
Posts: 308
Loc: South Carolina
Do they still make those "crimp sleeves" with the rubber boot. Now that is a good connection. But I do not think they are suited for solid wires.

#169198 - 09/28/07 03:46 PM Re: Residential question [Re: steve ancient apprentice]
steve ancient apprentice Offline

Registered: 03/04/05
Posts: 170
Loc: west springfield,mass
I talked to the boss today and took a picture of it to show him with the digital camera. He said not a problem we just put a box extender on the J-box and i made sure all the connections were secure and took one of the romex cables out of the clamp and put it in a new knockout with a cable clamp. Thank you all for your input really appreciate the info. We even go a little more business out of this home owner cause i told them if they run a couple of air conditioners on the same circut they will continually trip the breaker. We run a couple of new circuts this weekend. BOSS IS HAPPY.

#169203 - 09/28/07 04:36 PM Re: Residential question [Re: steve ancient apprentice]
macmikeman Offline

Registered: 07/16/02
Posts: 718
Loc: Honolulu, Hawaii
Otherwise known as a bridge splice. Not a problem if done as described in the original post.( as the others have stated)


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