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#120869 - 05/16/05 08:19 AM Service Upgrade
Webmaster Offline


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Posts: 3142
Loc: NY, USA
this is an existing 150amp,20-40 main breaker panel with the seu going thru soffit, (arrow in pic # 2 )customer wanted price for 200amp upgrade.

- richard

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#120870 - 05/16/05 12:27 PM Re: Service Upgrade
rcksmith127 Offline

Registered: 04/15/05
Posts: 33
Loc: Danvers, Ma, USA
Hey Rich, those are my favorite kind of jobs, you can make some dough there. Either the sink or the panel got to go. The whole "rats nest" in the basement will need lots of attention, and I don't have time to look at the whole outside but there are somthings peeking my curiosity just on the surface.
The only thing in your customers favor is that you should be able to run a 90 out of the bottom of the meter socket and run some rigid down the exterior, thats if there is room down that way for the panel in the interior.
The things that I didn't really look to closely at are your clearances on the roof top, and what ever the cables are kind of drapped around the weather head.
Good luck and work safe

#120871 - 05/16/05 05:55 PM Re: Service Upgrade
renosteinke Offline
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Registered: 01/22/05
Posts: 5305
Loc: Blue Collar Country
That house needs more power as much as a fish needs a bicycle!

The priority should be to clean up the wiring mess that he's made for himself....with the talents of a trained sparky, he might find out that he doesn't need a larger service after all- just some sanity restored to his circuits.

Indeed, I would refuse to upgrade the service until the mess is cleared up first.

BTW, that's not a sink....the HO put the 'catch basin' in to help us recover any screws or wire nuts we might drop :-)

#120872 - 05/16/05 08:23 PM Re: Service Upgrade
sierra electrician Offline

Registered: 02/12/05
Posts: 220
Loc: North Fork, CA USA
I think the sink is for the electrician hurl into. I got quesy just looking at the pics.


#120873 - 05/17/05 04:53 PM Re: Service Upgrade
e57 Offline

Registered: 05/27/03
Posts: 2837
Loc: S.F.,CA USA
I'll do it from here....

Replace Main and Dist. with excessively large J-box, or several small ones. Drag 'Pat Pending' Magic Wire and Cable Comb through that mess, and pipe every 6 circuits over to new panel location at corner of house nearest pole. See DONE!

Not that they need an up-grade, they need re-grade.

Does the drop go over the pool too?

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#120874 - 05/17/05 07:04 PM Re: Service Upgrade
Electricmanscott Offline

Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 1478
Loc: Holden, MA USA

#120875 - 05/17/05 10:14 PM Re: Service Upgrade
sierra electrician Offline

Registered: 02/12/05
Posts: 220
Loc: North Fork, CA USA
>>Does the drop go over the pool too?<<

Don't you mean "Frog Pond"


#120876 - 05/18/05 01:40 PM Re: Service Upgrade
richard Offline

Registered: 08/07/03
Posts: 84
Loc: L.I. New York
the homeowners had an extension built, without any permits, so to upgrade they need a relocated drop to the left of the house, meter main disco, and ser to existing panel location, new 40 circuit main lug panel, and the slop sink has to go. homeowner's response " It works now so we are going to let it be" They will be in for a rude awakening when lipa(POCO) has to get to the drop(they will not service the drop unless they have access by ladder) the drop to the right of the house is telephone.

#120877 - 05/27/05 09:09 PM Re: Service Upgrade
DougW Offline

Registered: 06/08/03
Posts: 1083
Loc: North Chicago, IL
With an attitude like that?


#120878 - 05/27/05 10:22 PM Re: Service Upgrade
Trumpy Offline


Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 8532
Loc: SI,New Zealand
Never before have I seen a bigger electrical mess in the one room.
Are those gas pipes running above the panel?.
This is going to take a lot of work to get right.
customer wanted price for 200amp upgrade.

Just tell him to bring the Bank down and park it at the door, it could come in handy.
Is that the telephone service draped across the outside (past the upstairs window) of the
Man that's rough!.
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