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#119485 - 12/28/04 05:35 PM GFCI Needed Here?
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Bathroom convenience receptacles must be gfi-protected. Water heaters typically are not.

For the sake of discussion, would you REQUIRE the water heater receptacle pictured to be gfi protected? It is well below the sink, and there is another receptacle adjacent to the sink.

Would your opinion be affected if the WH receptacle was inside a cabinet?

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#119486 - 12/28/04 05:51 PM Re: GFCI Needed Here?
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Yes John,
I would require that a GFCI was put on any outlet in a bathroom, regardless of wether it was in a cupboard or not.
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#119487 - 12/28/04 06:14 PM Re: GFCI Needed Here?
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NEC says "All" bathroom receptacles.
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#119488 - 12/28/04 09:09 PM Re: GFCI Needed Here?
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GFCI for me too John.
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#119489 - 12/29/04 05:03 AM Re: GFCI Needed Here?
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I'm with everyone else here, the NEC says if the receptacle is in a bathroom, it "shall" be protected by a GFCI.

Although there probably isn't one... I would look for an alternative location for that WH.
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#119490 - 12/29/04 05:36 AM Re: GFCI Needed Here?
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GFCI. There is no exception for a dedicated receptacle for a specific use item in bathrooms (like there is in garages for that extra freezer).
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#119491 - 12/29/04 03:01 PM Re: GFCI Needed Here?
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Is it OK to cord and plug connect a water heater?
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#119492 - 12/29/04 03:23 PM Re: GFCI Needed Here?
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If it was in a cabinet....

AND a single outlet receptacle (like the exceptions listed in the Code)

Then maybe.

The way it is now (accessible & duplex)?

Not a chance.
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#119493 - 12/29/04 05:40 PM Re: GFCI Needed Here?
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"Cal-rod" metal-sheathed heaters and GFCIs can be a troublesome combination. Replacement of the cord and lower receptacle with fixed wiring might make better sense.
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#119494 - 12/29/04 05:51 PM Re: GFCI Needed Here?
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" Should" be wired.....

Recessed single gang box, single gang, water proof extension box with sealtite, strapped and connected directly to Water Heater.

No GFCI
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