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#117185 - 05/27/04 04:20 PM Trouble Call >> LIGHTS OUT!!
Webmaster Offline


Registered: 10/07/00
Posts: 3142
Loc: NY, USA
The customer stated that half the lights in her house wouldn’t work. I told her she would need a new panel. She didn’t like the cost. As far as I know, her lights are still out.

- elecbob

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#117186 - 05/27/04 06:07 PM Re: Trouble Call >> LIGHTS OUT!!
Electricmanscott Offline

Registered: 01/12/02
Posts: 1478
Loc: Holden, MA USA
New NEC exception. "Where a new smoke detector is installed in the premises no articles of the NEC shall apply"

#117187 - 05/27/04 06:22 PM Re: Trouble Call >> LIGHTS OUT!!
BigJohn Offline

Registered: 03/06/04
Posts: 352
Loc: Boston, MA
Some of that stuff looked like ancient cloth-insulated NM until I looked even closer and saw an insulated EGC and a paper jacket, then I realised it was NM-B that is just really ate up!

"If you won't let me change out your panel, then I'll just go dial 9-1 and stand by the phone...."


#117188 - 05/27/04 07:21 PM Re: Trouble Call >> LIGHTS OUT!!
electure Offline


Registered: 12/24/00
Posts: 4226
Loc: Fullerton, CA USA
I sure hope that the "lights out problem" is due to the feeder to this panel being shut off...S

#117189 - 05/27/04 08:32 PM Re: Trouble Call >> LIGHTS OUT!!
elecbob Offline

Registered: 08/23/02
Posts: 142
Loc: WA
I couldn't get close to the panel because someone had built a 4 foot wide work bench in front of it.I think you see the red because the pic is shot from an angle.

#117190 - 05/27/04 09:26 PM Re: Trouble Call >> LIGHTS OUT!!
Dave55 Offline

Registered: 05/08/04
Posts: 666
Loc: Crystal Lake, Illinois, USA
It's a good thing the workbench is there to keep this out of reach!


#117191 - 05/27/04 10:03 PM Re: Trouble Call >> LIGHTS OUT!!
Lostazhell Offline

Registered: 02/21/04
Posts: 1248
Loc: Bakersfield, CA (Originally Or...
Who the???? Why the ???? What the ???? This panel looks like it had indigestion & burped out a rats nest!! Can it be possible that ANYONE with an IQ of at least 2 digits could have done this in the first place!?!!


#117192 - 05/29/04 11:46 AM Re: Trouble Call >> LIGHTS OUT!!
Texas_Ranger Offline

Registered: 12/17/01
Posts: 2332
Loc: Vienna, Austria
A new _panel_???

I'd say a full rewire, if not a new house!

Randy: 100% ACK!

Here this mess would be stuffed into a hole in a brick wall, covered with newspapers and plastered over. At least they got some free-air cooling here!


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