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#45370 11/25/04 02:18 PM
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iwire,
I never gave consideration to the scope of the permit, whether it includes hooking up the mechanicals, or not.
Around here, it is pretty lax.
And as I see from other responses, the answer varies.
What about a 3 phase hermetic?
How would rotation be verified? Would we connect the equipment and then schedule a return visit if the AC guys aren't on site at the time? What about laibility for equipment damage?

Hi, electure. Nice to see you recognized my return. I have been scarce since going out on my own in February of this year. What with working twice as long I don't have as much free time. But it is OK to work twice as long because I make up for it by earning half the pay [Linked Image]

Seasons Greetings!! Rojosy

#45371 11/27/04 01:14 AM
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I work in the San Diego area and at out shop we connect em and install the disco.. why that is I have never asked my boss, just seemed obvious and self evident to me. Mechanical guys I have talked to as well as lo-volt alarm & data guys don't seem to like to mess with it if we are there to do it for them- and, I guess, why would they?

#45372 11/28/04 09:08 PM
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Redsy,

I was talking to my state about this very question. If the job is brand new, then the contractor is pulling permits and is responsible for the job. On a repair, however, the HVAC guy is allowed to disconnect and replace wiring AFTER the disconnect switch. Same goes for furnace/boiler people, well installers, etc. Once the job is in and inspected, then the repair people can remove and replace the equipment as it is wired. As long as it is after the last disconnect switch.

#45373 11/28/04 11:27 PM
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Harold:
That's a news flash to me!!

I'm under inpression that HVAC can do furnace/boiler replacements, BUT a LIC. EC has to do the Condenser wiring.

That's how it's been in my town! Who did you speak to at DCA??

John


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#45374 11/29/04 12:07 AM
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I do everything. Line voltage wiring, thermostat wiring, disconnect and whip, connections in the furnace and thermostats. I haven't seen a tin-bender yet that could do it right.

Dave

#45375 11/29/04 12:43 AM
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In my area we do all the line and low voltage wiring, including installing the thermstat, on commercial jobs, where the AC compressor is problably three phase, we leave the disconnect switched off until the hvac contractor does a start up test on it.

[This message has been edited by CRM (edited 11-28-2004).]

#45376 12/12/04 10:44 AM
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Here is a reason not to let A/C service techs connect em.


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BTW it is 208V. 3PH

#45377 12/12/04 12:39 PM
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My company connects the high voltage side and runs the thermostat cabling into the unit. I leave the disconnect off and the thermostat cable disconnected so that the units can't be turned on until the A/C guy checks them out.

I personally don't want to be responsible for a destroyed A/C unit due to a frozen component, so I make sure the A/C guy turns it on.

#45378 12/12/04 02:07 PM
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I goofed up big time...Again
I sent NORCAL a bum url
Here's the image that should have posted 2 posts up


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Sorry, Rollie

#45379 12/12/04 07:32 PM
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Arround here the EC hooks up the condensor and furnace. Start up is an HVAC and electrician.


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