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"I was actually thinking more along the lines of NEMA 10-50"
Actually the 10-50 is comparativly huge. However the 10-20 is quite close. The one that you post in the link I think was later reclassified as the 10-20

{Just to throw a little thread-jack in here}
Aussie,
Is that your own website?.
I'm sure that Paul would get a kick out of that car and a few other of the things on your site!.
Good one!.
kiwi,
Now let's not get too silly here, mate.
Don't you go jinxin' the AB's!.

Trumpy, Yes that's my website I'd hate to think how many hours I've put into it...and it's never finished.

BTW, what's the go with posting pics here from a local file? Is that only a moderator/administrator privilege? I'm dying to put up some pics of the polarity reversing double adaptors (along with 101 other things!), but can only see how to do that from another URL.

As Ian said, the 10-50 is a huge connector. Its typical use in residential work is to connect an electric range, with the 10-30 being used for a clothes dryer. (The 14-xx equivalents are required on new installs now, and can also be found on older circuits which run from a sub-panel -- American grounding arrangements differ somewhat from Brit/Aussie/Kiwi/European practice).


You have some good old stuff on there!

If you look back through the archives you'll find one or two threads here relating to old radios and similar gear.


Yep, only mods. can upload to the ECN server I'm afraid. If you e-mail any images to one of us, we can upload them and provide you with the URLs so that you can link them into your post.


Oh.... The team was over there then? You can tell I'm not the slightest bit interested in sport, can't you?

Aussie,
No I think it might have been 32VAC I got confused with.
The 3rd pic of the post by Bill, was in fact used by light Industrial Spot Welders here.
The pin configuration was meant to ensure that no other equipment could be plugged into that socket.
At that stage, the only people allowed to install this sort of gear would have been Registered Electricians and thier Apprentices, under instruction, mind you, any worker like this would have been able to work that out for themselves, with a simple Bell test.
I'm not actually aware of a rule like that over here, from the Regs that I have, you were required to Earth everything.
Kiwi, no they aren't as far as I'm aware.
I heard figures of 100 or 300W but there is no way that they would carry 2300W.
Proof of the pudding is when you try and switch an inductive load with them, say a twin lamp with Compact Fluorescent lamps in it.
I've never liked cord-line switches or dimmers, they are in my opinion just a stop-gap solution.
[quote]After all, the minimum size of cable allowed to feed a 10A outlet is 1.5mm which is rated at 16A. This is still a requirement isn't it ?{/quote]
Just because it's a minimum size, there is no stipulation to use it.
I'd never use 1.5mm to feed Socket-Outlets, no matter how small the house was.
Under my training you always used 2.5mm and protected it accordingly.
1.5mm was for lighting circuits.

I think most NZ sparkies would agree with you Trumpy when you say that 1.5mm multi-strand should be the minimum for lighting. The 1.0mm solid single-strand cable still available here is very unpopular. Australia and the larger pacific nations have dropped it. Why are we still using it?

We're in a similar position here in still using 1 sq. mm for lighting circuits. As far as I'm aware, the wiring rules in most European countries specify 1.5 as the minimum size.

kiwi,
Mainly because 1mm2 is cheap, the number of houses I've seen wired with it would explain it's popularity or the cut-throat nature of the NZ Electrical Contracting market.
I've seen Inspectors here, refuse to connect houses with 1mm2 feeding the lights.
It doesn't go down well.

Thanks to John (aussie240) for the following:

[This message has been edited by pauluk (edited 07-16-2005).]