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Is there any explaination of just exactly what the HE-double hockey sticks that is.

I thought I'd seen my share of code violations before, but it appears that human nature certainly carries on.

Yep! more like the second pic (minus the timer) though!
Actually I have seen power panels where they were for just that, they were LOADED up and down each side with twist lock receptacles! This was a setup at the convention center in a neighbouring city... Every display plugged into these massive power cables with outlets every X number of feet and those cables would in turn be plugged right into the side of a power panel somewhere!

A.D

Let me carry this tangent a little farther....

Code requires every residence to have outside receptacles, front and rear. Wouldn't it be logical for every meter disconnect (or 'all-in-one') to have provision for mounting a GFI receptacle, and the appropriate cover, directly to the cabinet? This would cover one of the required receptacles in a jiffy.

Really, as far as the second pic of the recepts mounted in the sidecan of the panel are concerned, what's really wrong or even unsafe about it? Please cite specifics as I don't see an issue. And just because the Code doesn't specifically permit it doesn't make it wrong, just unconventional.

As long as total wire fill limits aren't exceeded, having such a setup isn't a violation IMHO.

Now the recpt in the deadfront of the Zinsco (or any panel) that I can clearly agree is not safe. There is the possibility of accidental contact with or grounding out of energized parts with that setup. Not to mention it's Zinsco....

Know what? I LIKE that idea of having the meter and disconnect all in one with a GFI.. thats an idea!
Just a note though, Up here anyway, we are not required to put a disconnect at the meter ALTHOUGH I thing that would be a heck of a good idea for safety reasons!

If I were re-wiring the service here in the future I would check with the inspector and if allowed I would do it..

Also, I was at the supplier not too long ago and already you can get A/C disconnects with GFI's built right in them..
You are required to feed them from a separate circuit of course BUT how easy does it make life for the service tech when he goes to plug in a light or tool!

A.D