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#109998 01/11/06 07:15 PM
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The only thing I like about garbage like this, is that warm fuzzy feeling you get after you rip it all out and make everything nice and code compliant.

Destroying crappy work has to be hands-down the best part of my job. [Linked Image]

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#109999 01/11/06 07:15 PM
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If you think thats bad you should see the other end where it goes out into the A/C unit, and the tail of 10/2 coming out of it and into a 50A welder receptacle in a non weatherproof enclosure under the deck! ( originally that circuit had a 40 amp breaker on it as well!)

Maybe the Canadian Code differs, but that might actually be acceptable under the NEC, provided the receptacle is used only for a welder (I mean the ampacity part, not the non-weatherproof enclosure). It all depends on the type of welder and the duty cycle; there are derating factors that sometimes allow you to use a 40A breaker with #10.

#110000 01/11/06 10:09 PM
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Yes that LB is PVC coated rigid [Linked Image]

After paying for that, the "electrishun" might not have had enough $$ left to buy proper material for the rest of the install.

#110001 01/12/06 12:27 PM
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For the longest time, they were basic brown bakelite parts affixed to a tin plate. There was to cover plate. The past 10 years or so the "Designer" recepticle, as seen there, became vogue.

Can you get the "regular" receptacle and plate there still?

These things strike me as quite chintzy. I bet the plate and receptacle are one unit, correct?

#110002 01/12/06 12:57 PM
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Last I seen in the store, the has only the new style. Yes, the plate and recpticle are one assembly.

#110003 01/12/06 02:10 PM
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in pic #2, does that LB cover have a 1/2" KO on it?

#110004 01/12/06 07:07 PM
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Yep I was surprised it was that "plasti-cote" that was mentioned! Of the 10 years I worked at the supplier I have NEVER ever heard of it! Must have been materials that were purchased in the U.S.A.. All that mess is coming out anyway, The A/C on the other end of it is some vintage Unit
( manufacturer unknown at this time).. You know the ones --> when they start all your lights dim and you can hear the poletop transformer grunt, and when they run you cant see the little black mark on the wheel in your hydro meter because its spinning that quick [Linked Image]

Oh ya, that L.B in pic#2, it appears to have a 1/2" K.O in its cover but thats just part of the stamping

#110005 01/13/06 01:08 PM
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One thing I kinda like about that new FPE panel is the small ground bars placed in different parts of the can.. Seems like it would aid in a cleaner installation...

#110006 01/14/06 11:54 AM
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Actually with those ground bars, they factory install 2 and give you a few extra in the " spare parts bag" so you can put them wherever you want in the panel.. Thats what those other holes are for you see... They USED to give you a couple longer ones but they stopped doing that a couple years ago..

FPE Also used to have panels with a set of knockouts in the side where you could actually mount a standard duplex receptacle right in the side of the panel! They stopped doing that too!

A.D

#110007 01/14/06 06:17 PM
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Kinda like this "brilliant" idea?

[Linked Image from img.photobucket.com]

(found on the net someplace a while ago...)

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