Just going to warn a few people about this, and figured I should warn everyone else.

RSA Lighting

These things, in particular the square trimmed ones are a nightmare to install. And considering thier cost, should install themselves - but don't.... It should be noted that ALL of these "trim-less" type fixures will have simular problems -especially square or rectangluar.

  • The square trim - even slightly out of square will stick out like a sore thumb - calling into question all placements. This is exasparated by below.
  • Flimsy hanger bars and brackets normally used on cheaper fixtures are used, resulting in additional support straight lines. Butterfly brackets are poorly designed as well, and not readily modified for wood or metal framing.
  • The fixture J-box comes pre-over-packed. As it already has ALL of the thermal, transformer, and line side conductors extra long inside the box, there is barely any room for the feed in and out conductors. See below again:
  • The junction box is not reachable from inside the fixture, and thus not accessible in the real world sense. Sure you can reach, and maybe open it, but as it is 10-14" (NonIC/IC) inside the fixture - unless you have made the feed in and out conductors that long the splices will not be accessible or for that matter visable. Also note above, the thing is already over packed and there will be little chance of re-packing it after install.
  • The trim amounts to a multi-trade organization of trades by the GC after framing, of rockers and and painters to float out its required level 5 finish of 3/16" mud or the cieling will look like crap, and the trim must remain clear, then the trims meust be painted to match in an extremely thin coat or the trim wont fit. Not to mention the extra time the electrician takes in handling everyone of the trims 2-3 times, pointing out deficient work at each opening, and the extra time to install and stabilize each one. Thats four coordinated trades to install correctly!
  • On top of being $150-$250 a fixture matieral cost, if you add up every other cost they amount to ~$300 EACH! (Not including branch wire)

Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason