pep3000, if you want to become a competant and dependable electrian, just get your tail off the sofa and look for someone to put you to work. Sounds like you whining about the IBEW apprenticship program. I my opinion look for someone who is willing to let you reside in their hip pocket and learn as much as you can, ask questions, hit any job like you would your own. No matter how long it takes it's the knowledge for your gain. Nobody can take back what you have learned. Learn it, apply it and keep striving to better yourself. I'm sure that anyone (if they care to be honest) will tell you that they are still learning, even if they do have 30 + years in the trade. There is so much out there to learn that your time spent in the early stages will pass by in a blink of an eye. Just enjoy the trade, it can provide an endless career for you.