Well said Jim, i have no intrest in what others charge, or how they bid, what i do know, is what it costs me to operate, and make a profit, I estimate my jobs present my price , and move on to the next one, i am in business, to earn a living, and provide for my family, and my future.
When i bid a job, i submit a price, based on it being profitable.

[This message has been edited by LK (edited 03-08-2006).]