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#99845 09/19/06 11:01 PM
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With the cost of copper being so high, I see the plumbers using non-metallic piping for the supply lines in new construction. They quite often use short pieces of copper (about 12 to 24") at the fixtures. Should we be concerned about these scattered piping sections some of them are maybe 6 feet long. Do the inspectors as for compliance per 250.104(A)(1)?


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#99846 09/19/06 11:25 PM
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I wouldn't call short sections of copper a 'metal water piping system', although I could see where somebody would.

#99847 09/19/06 11:33 PM
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Welcome to our world. I haven't seen metal pipe here in years but the faucets are still some kind of metal. I feel your pain.
I don't think there is anything definate but bear in mind the "may become energized" language and look at the installed equipment. I like the "EGC of the equipment likely to energize" concept. I would want them to grab the EGC of an insta'hot or things like that to bond nearby plumbing. I am not sure you do anything with a corian sink, metal faucet and no nearby equipment.

[This message has been edited by gfretwell (edited 09-19-2006).]


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In a situation like that I would be more worriied for the plumber. [Linked Image] He goes to solder a joint on that and melts a fitting in the wall......


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#99849 09/22/06 11:02 AM
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In 250.104(B), the NEC now uses the specific phrase "likely" to become energized. In this context a dictionary equivalent(synonym) is "probably" become energized.

This was a change in the 2005 NEC from the loosely defined phrase "may" become energized.

#99850 09/22/06 03:11 PM
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NO. Isolated sections of pipe are not systems.


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