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Do breakers need handles? #98565
06/01/06 07:22 PM
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Dnkldorf  Offline OP
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I know this sounds strange, but where do I find information on why breakers need handles?

I know the question would arise on how you would lock them out, without handles, but I think I have that figued out. Where do I find this requirement?

UL listing?

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Re: Do breakers need handles? #98566
06/01/06 08:17 PM
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Dave T  Offline
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Mmmmmmmmmm, No Handle. no ability to reset and close the breaker. Then the breaker must be replaced when it trips.
Go with fuses as they are easier to replace.

Re: Do breakers need handles? #98567
06/01/06 09:02 PM
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Elviscat  Offline
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well how about the old Pushmatic brand of circuit breaker, they didn't have handles...

Re: Do breakers need handles? #98568
06/01/06 10:01 PM
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George Little  Offline
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I guess it depends too on your definition of a "circuit breaker". When I look up the definition in Article 100 I would say "No circuit breakers don't have to have handles". It could be a device that will be resetable by pushing a button.


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Re: Do breakers need handles? #98569
06/02/06 11:25 AM
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mkoloj  Offline
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How about this circuit breaker?
It doesn't have a handle and it resets itself.

http://www.aquavolt.com.au/persistent/catalogue_images/categories/225010.jpg


[This message has been edited by mkoloj (edited 06-02-2006).]

Re: Do breakers need handles? #98570
06/02/06 04:16 PM
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Larry Fine  Offline
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I bet it's rated only to 32v.


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Re: Do breakers need handles? #98571
06/02/06 05:53 PM
06/02/06 05:53 PM
HotLine1  Offline

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Hmmm. thermal reset?? Forklift??

OK, Dave.....
You talking about 'big' breakers with removable leverage handles??? Or are you talking about 'small' cb's with toggle type handles??

NO, I'm not being a wise guy, and not because I owe you one; I just don't get your drift.

Stay dry!
John


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Re: Do breakers need handles? #98572
06/03/06 06:36 AM
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Dnkldorf  Offline OP
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John, I was pondering a thought that had to do with digital breakers, and using X-10 technology. I had the thought that a breaker had to have a handle for some reason..

I am thinking about a digital push button,(on-off) with a key for lock-out....

Re: Do breakers need handles? #98573
06/03/06 09:36 AM
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iwire  Offline
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Square D makes 'Power Link' breakers which are otherwise normal breakers but have the ability to open or close the circuit by remote means.

However the handle does not move, the remote opening and closing is done internally.

I can not imagine that in the near future we will be seeing 'handless' breakers.

To many accessibility issues along with tradition.


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts
Re: Do breakers need handles? #98574
06/03/06 02:53 PM
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renosteinke  Offline
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if memory serves me right, UL standards require that a breaker have some means of indicating a trip, as well as re-setting it. As another mentioned, there are breakers that use a push-button for this, rather than a handle.

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