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#92951 - 04/19/05 10:58 PM deration  
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how many #12 thhn"s can i legally squeeze in a 3/4 in conduit? the conductors are feeding plugs and lights in a commercial building?


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#92952 - 04/19/05 11:47 PM Re: deration  
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Per appendix C of the 99 NEC--16.

Don't forget to derate according to 310-15.


#92953 - 04/19/05 11:48 PM Re: deration  
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i will say 12 to 15 but depending on which kind of conduct pipe you are using and keep in mind you have to derated also because it will be more than 3 current carry conductors

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#92954 - 04/19/05 11:58 PM Re: deration  
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Oh yeah--that 16 is in EMT which I assumed you would be using. I know us Chicago guys forget about that other stuff.


#92955 - 04/20/05 07:42 AM Re: deration  
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Steve- Just for a smart ass comment EMT is not conduit [Linked Image]


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#92956 - 04/20/05 05:44 PM Re: deration  
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George,

One smart--- comment deserves another.
Whether EMT is conduit or not depends on how old you are.

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#92957 - 04/20/05 06:53 PM Re: deration  
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Guess your right Redsy- I'm a little long in the tooth.


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#92958 - 04/20/05 09:03 PM Re: deration  
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Although it is technically tubing, the second sentence of 358.24 (2002 NEC) calls it conduit. [Linked Image]

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#92959 - 04/22/05 11:29 PM Re: deration  
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Thanks Roger for saving my butt!!

I really wish they would make a clear definitive distinction between the two though. It would have saved us all at least a combined 5 minutes of typing. [Linked Image]



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