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riser #91378
01/13/05 01:17 PM
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IS IT acsecptable for the power company service line to run over liveable dwelling?If it is how far off the roof does it need to be?

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Re: riser #91379
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Yes, 230.24(A)


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Re: riser #91380
01/28/05 01:58 PM
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it is acceptable so long as the point of attachment sustains a 3' clearance above roof for the roofers sake

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That 3' is only "final conductor span" leading to the service head. Normally the clearance is 8' above the roof for a distance of 3' beyond the roof edge.


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Re: riser #91382
01/29/05 01:02 PM
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Actually, the NESC is the Code that covers the serving electric utility’s service drop clearances. The 3 ft beyond the roof’s edge is not in the NESC. [Linked Image]

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Re: riser #91383
01/29/05 09:24 PM
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What is the NESC rule for height over a roof?


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Re: riser #91384
01/29/05 10:19 PM
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It's up to the POCO. Here they won't allow the eight foot riser if it's more than 3 feet from the edge because they don't allow the line crews to use a ladder on the roof for safety reasons. So they specify five feet, no matter how much of the drop extends over the roof.

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These are "before and after" photos of one result of a service change I did. As you can see, the service drop has a lot more clearance than it previously had.

So, yes, you can run these conductors over a dwelling, but you do need 36" clearance. While I believe that this is covered in NEC 230-24, your local utility is likely to have a different rule.

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Re: riser #91386
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If this drop is not going to the building in question I think 230.24 says it has to be 8 feet above the roof, out to a distance of 3 feet from the roof's edge. The exception (4) is for the final span of the drop that connects to the riser on the building served


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Re: riser #91387
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Somehow the "before" and "after shots got reversed [Linked Image]. I hate it when that happens!
I will admit that 230 also references the pitch of the roof; this roof is right on the line, and I let the inspector decide. Part of this was based upon the heigth of the riser on the building getting new service; see photos added to "flagpoles" in "photos submitted for discussion."

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