Here in the State of Michigan we have adopted the 2002 NEC with amendments and all electrical installations are required to comply with State code. There are some facets of electrical installations that are installed by unlicensed people legally. They are required to comply with the State code. For example, Audio/Visual equipment, communication equipment, lawn sprinkler equipment and data wiring are quite often installed by unlicensed people and they get inspected and must comply with code.
[This message has been edited by George Little (edited 01-02-2005).]
Re: Application of Code Enforcement#91148 01/02/0509:52 AM01/02/0509:52 AM
I made that statement (The NEC applies to ALL crafts)on the 2005 NEC forum after having only given it some superficial thought. I made the statement because I was wondering if the city or state inspection division could require the footing contractor to leave provisions for the electrician to connect the Ufer electrode.
Then I changed my mind after some of the responses. But then after I thought more, I came up with a scenario similar to yours where the carpenter blocks access to the electrical panels. Same could be for any craft who violates working spaces and the dedicated spaces above switchboards.
I am sure that we could come up with many scenarios were other crafts have to comply with the NEC... temporary wiring on construction sites comes to mind... extension cords and GFCI?
But as you said, in the end, it will be the Electrical Contractor who gets the red tag... although I can think of some construction scenarios that violate the NEC and there isn't even an electrical contractor for the project.
Re: Application of Code Enforcement#91149 01/02/0510:02 AM01/02/0510:02 AM
In Florida the inspectors are trying to insure that only licensed electrical contractors are installing any kind of wire (we have low voltage specialty wiring licenses). They seemed shocked when I pointed out that the pool shooter is the one who bonds the pool. They also have problems with the low voltage for the vacuum, garage door and HVAC that gets run by "unlicensed" workers but it will be the EC who takes the violation. I only wonder how long it will be before they start busting unlicensed phone installers. The "phone company" and "cable company" subs all of this out to "contractors" who are simply casual labor guys who may or may not even have an occupational license and certainly don't have a limited EC license. It should be noted that phone is class 3 725 wiring, not really even "low voltage". It is power limited but the voltage can be over 100vac when the phone is ringing. "On hook" voltage is about 48v. When they really do start cracking down on this it will bring shock waves across the telecom wiring industry.
Re: Application of Code Enforcement#91151 01/02/0506:33 PM01/02/0506:33 PM
In Westchester County, NY, when we inspect a job that has violations that are not created by the electrical contractor, we cite the violation to the property owner. The property owner and the Building Department get copies of the violation, and the Building Department follows up with us/property owner to make sure it is cleared. There is no reason that the EC has to be cited. This procedure was developed by me and the Building Departments/municipalities when I was building this company.
Re: Application of Code Enforcement#91152 01/03/0504:03 PM01/03/0504:03 PM
Just to add my 2 cents to John's reply, NJ is making other people get a license. The are fire/burg alarm installers, lawn irrigation people, and even home improvment contractors (who will be lic. later this year). The FA/BA alarm people only get a low voltage license as does the lawn irrigation people. Anyone Line voltage, Elec. Cont., lawn people, FA/BA people and even homeowners, all have follow the NEC that my state adopts.
Re: Application of Code Enforcement#91154 01/04/0512:15 AM01/04/0512:15 AM