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NEC Help #90966
12/19/04 08:36 AM
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AndyP  Offline OP
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What is the ampacity of the wire in #11 if it was installed to feed Light poles?

I look in Article 310.16 but I'm just confused.

lol man I'm tired. #11 meaning THHN 8 awg

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Re: NEC Help #90967
12/19/04 08:43 AM
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russ m  Offline
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"What is the ampacity of the wire in #11 if it was installed to feed Light poles?"

Whats #11 refer to?

Re: NEC Help #90968
12/19/04 08:56 AM
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Never mind I think it's 55a

Re: NEC Help #90969
12/19/04 09:09 AM
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russ m  Offline
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Generally conductors below 100amp are rated according to the 60degree column of 310.16.

You must rate the wire to the lowest value of any component in the circuit. The degree rating of the breaker, and any devices, lugs, or equipment, have to be taken into concideration.

8 copper = 40amps for 3 or less conductors.
You have to derate if you have more than three conductors or have ambient temperatures greater than 86 degrees F.

To derate the wire use the 90 degree column if using thhn/thwn.

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Re: NEC Help #90970
12/19/04 09:15 AM
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while you may use the 90 degree column for derating, (use what ever column the wire is rated for) you still have to use the lower of the two values for your conductor ampacity. Meaning the the lower of the two, (1)60 degree column or (2)the derated 90 degree wire.

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Re: NEC Help #90971
12/19/04 09:19 AM
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Thanks

Re: NEC Help #90972
12/19/04 09:19 AM
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iwire  Offline
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Andy it is very unlikely you can use the 90 C column which lists 8 AWG @ 55 amps.

You may very well be able to use the 75 C column if the terminations you are using are rated 75 C. At 75 C 8 AWG CU is rated 50 amps.


Bob Badger
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Re: NEC Help #90973
12/19/04 09:28 AM
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It might be helpfull for you to look at article 110.14(C)

I had to edit the article number

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