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Polarity testing #90682
12/08/04 12:16 AM
12/08/04 12:16 AM
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tdhorne  Offline OP
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When your plug in tester reads polarity reversal and your wiggy reads 120 volts from ground to neutral and from hot to neutral what two totally different failures can cause this.
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Tom

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Re: Polarity testing #90683
12/08/04 12:29 AM
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Open neutral upstream and that may be a bad contact in a GFCI receptacle (covered here several times). You are seeing a back circuit through the downstream load.


Greg Fretwell
Re: Polarity testing #90684
12/08/04 10:46 AM
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I assume you are taking measurements at the receptacle. The tester is saying you have reversed polarity, that means the neutral and live conductor are reversed. It sounds like the grounded conductor (neutral) is connected to the brass colored terminal to which the live conductor is supposed to be connected, and the live conductor is connected to the white or silver colored terminal to which the grounded conductor (neutral) is to be connected.

Re: Polarity testing #90685
12/08/04 03:32 PM
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John if this is a simple polarity reversal you wouldn't see volts on the brass screw


Greg Fretwell
Re: Polarity testing #90686
12/08/04 03:51 PM
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If you reverse hot and neutral you would see this. If you roll all 3 lines so hot is on silver, ground is on brass, and neutral is on green, you would also see this.
/mike

Re: Polarity testing #90687
12/10/04 08:45 PM
12/10/04 08:45 PM
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It's an open neutral, nothing else. Most of the cheap plug in testers will show reverse polarity on an open neutral condition since the neutral is now at 120V potential from upstream load.

Re: Polarity testing #90688
12/10/04 08:51 PM
12/10/04 08:51 PM
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Sorry I didn't notice you said 120 from hot to neutral. It must be like mike said,simply reverse polarity. Your getting 120 from neutral to grd because your neutral is really a hot.

Re: Polarity testing #90689
12/11/04 12:08 AM
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tdhorne  Offline OP
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How I got the readings described were from a fault from the hot to the Equipment Grounding Conductor with an open in the EGC between the fault and the source.
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Tom H


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Re: Polarity testing #90690
12/11/04 06:52 PM
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Tom, did and earlier fault cause the EGC to blow apart, then become energized when the breaker was reset?
Just goes to show how trying to guess a problem without being there can make a fool out of you.

Re: Polarity testing #90691
12/12/04 10:01 PM
12/12/04 10:01 PM
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BigB Tom, did and earlier fault cause the EGC to blow apart, then become energized when the breaker was reset?
Just goes to show how trying to guess a problem without being there can make a fool out of you.
So far it appears that the separation of the armor jacket of the old type BX cable caused the fault by cutting into the insulation of the hot conductor.
--
Tom H


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