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Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90158
11/01/04 04:17 PM
11/01/04 04:17 PM
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mustangelectric  Offline OP
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Bentonville, AR
Hi,
Do I hear any AMENS to the following code suggestion:

All J-Boxes installed in an attic space SHALL be ELEVATED when they are accessible from the attic space!

I am sick of wading through insulation to find a j-box.

I have seen 2 feet of this crap blown in an attic!

I have turned down work because I did not want to wade into that...i have also lost some tools up there in that wasteland!

Give me a break!

-regards

Mustang

[This message has been edited by mustangelectric (edited 11-01-2004).]


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Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90159
11/01/04 06:16 PM
11/01/04 06:16 PM
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CharlieE  Offline
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Indianapolis
This sounds like a proposal for the 2008 NEC . . . right? [Linked Image]

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Charlie Eldridge, Indianapolis, Utility Power Guy


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Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90160
11/01/04 07:11 PM
11/01/04 07:11 PM
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chi spark  Offline
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Chicago IL USA
Can't that be covered somehow in the concealed junction box section. To me insulation is a permanent installation and the junction boxes should not be permanently concealed. Try to enforce that with the insulators! If the boxes were to be elevated, how high should they go? About knee(*ouch*) high?

Oh, and AMEN!!
(edited to TESTIFFYY)

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Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90161
11/01/04 08:02 PM
11/01/04 08:02 PM
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Electricmanscott  Offline
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Holden, MA USA
As if the inspector is actually going into the attic.

Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90162
11/01/04 08:29 PM
11/01/04 08:29 PM
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Ryan_J  Offline
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West Jordan, Utah, USA
Why would I need to go to the attic? I can see a box at the rough inspection, and if it were low it would get moved [Linked Image], if this indeed were a requirement.


Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90163
11/01/04 09:20 PM
11/01/04 09:20 PM
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normel  Offline
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Make it a habit of good workmanship and install all your attic J boxes high enough to clear the insulation. Those who come in after you will thank you.

Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90164
11/01/04 09:34 PM
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Ryan_J  Offline
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West Jordan, Utah, USA
Are attic J-boxes really that common? I don't think I've ever seen one here.


Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City
Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90165
11/02/04 06:49 AM
11/02/04 06:49 AM
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CharlieE  Offline
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Indianapolis
I was in the trade for about five years and have installed a few on rewire but I don't think I ever installed one on new work. [Linked Image]

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Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90166
11/02/04 07:58 AM
11/02/04 07:58 AM
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Electricmanscott  Offline
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Holden, MA USA
Ryan you have to go into the attic to see them. [Linked Image] Seriously I find them (and install them) quite often in renovation work. I have yet to come accross an inspector that will climb into an attic, especially a dirty old one. As for crawling through insulation, it is unfortunately part of our job.

Re: Knee Deep Insulation & Accessibility #90167
11/02/04 09:10 AM
11/02/04 09:10 AM
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mustangelectric  Offline OP
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Posts: 494
Bentonville, AR
Hi,
Thanks for the replies. A lot of homes here will have HVAC equip, lights, or additions over time..if you need to trace anything out by visual inspection it makes it tough.

Somehow I always end up in the attic!

not the end of the world I suppose just an idea.

-regards

Mustang

[This message has been edited by mustangelectric (edited 11-03-2004).]


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