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Circuit Identification and Purpose Directory #87377
02/24/04 12:37 PM
02/24/04 12:37 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Do you make sure that all circuits and circuit modifications are legibly identified as to their purpose or use on a circuit directory that is located on the face or inside of the panel door in the case of a panelboard, and at each switch on a switchboard? 408.4

Do you also make sure 110.22 is complied with as well?


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Re: Circuit Identification and Purpose Directory #87378
02/24/04 08:52 PM
02/24/04 08:52 PM
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Joe:
Honestly, I have to say 90% on branch circuits that have been 'modified', 100% on new work, and 100% on discos & swbds.

John


John
Re: Circuit Identification and Purpose Directory #87379
02/24/04 09:26 PM
02/24/04 09:26 PM
Scott35  Offline

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Yes.

In the lines of HotLine1's message, for a "minor" service type installation, I'll update the directory as to the new circuit(s) installed.

For remodels / T.I.s which result in nearly all circuits being altered, I'll print out a new, clean Directory (with a few extras - 1 blank, 1 with minimal info).

For new installs, definitely print out Directories.

At times, I'll also include a Panel Schedule for use in future load calculations, or to determine what's been designed to the circuitry at the time.
All these items - of course, are custom created databases & spreadsheets - printed from my Home based Workstations.

As to labeling Equipment / Discos / etc., if not subject to weather or "abnormal" physical influences, I'll print out Panel / Circuit information on either 5163 label stock, or using the "Brother P-Touch" label maker.
Where these labels will last 5 days max., I'll "carefully" print Panel / Circuit information using a Permanent Marker or "Paint Pen".

Scott35


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Re: Circuit Identification and Purpose Directory #87380
02/24/04 09:34 PM
02/24/04 09:34 PM
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russ m  Offline
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I always make sure that the panel schedule is marked, main disconnects also.

Got to admit on disconnects for other things like machinery, A/C units, pool pumps, or roof top stuff I haven't been requireing it.
Most of this stuff is pretty obvious as far as the disconnect goes.

Re: Circuit Identification and Purpose Directory #87381
02/25/04 03:46 PM
02/25/04 03:46 PM
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Griswold, CT, USA
I heard from another inspector of a guy who wrote all the information in Chinese characters. (He was of Chinese descent) the inspector made him add the English translations.


Earl
Re: Circuit Identification and Purpose Directory #87382
02/25/04 03:57 PM
02/25/04 03:57 PM
HotLine1  Offline

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Earl:
I work PT as an AHJ (2 days), and the Twp has a very diversified ethnic population.

Yes, I had a panel marked in chineese characters, and I requested English sub-titles from the owner/contractor.

I understand that english was not the 'first' language of the occupants, but I cannot read chineese either. Although this subject could be debated at the Board of Appeals, I choose the easy way out and 'requested' the sub-titles.

John


John
Re: Circuit Identification and Purpose Directory #87383
02/25/04 05:05 PM
02/25/04 05:05 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Thanks for the many replies: I will bet that NFPA would have a problem with an NEC Proposal that would accommodate the language issue in your areas, can you imagine?

Earl and John: I will be the third submitter if you submit a proposal for the 2008 NEC!

By the way I am in Biloxi, Mississippi at the NEC TCC (Technical Correlating Meeting) and they are reviewing the NEC Comments and Panels Actions --- some interesting issues and information I am absorbing.


Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

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