ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
twh 10
Admin 4
Recent Posts
Windows 10, who's upgraded?
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 11:02 AM
How do you find a good employee?
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 10:58 AM
Recall notice: Bosch Solar panels
by ElectricianBud. 05/27/17 10:53 AM
Correct rotation, wrong sequence
by Potseal. 05/27/17 12:15 AM
Dryer, Range grounding from "Main" panel
by sparkync. 05/25/17 05:49 PM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
236,977 Are you busy
171,994 Re: Forum
164,865 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 66 guests, and 10 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
#85959 - 08/22/03 09:50 AM Bathroom receptacles  
Ryan_J  Offline
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,374
West Jordan, Utah, USA
Let me start by saying that I try to leave interperation out of the code, but as we all know, that is not always possible. That being said, I had an electrician ask me about the required receptacle outlet in a dwelling unit bathroom. He has a pedastal sink and wanted to know if the elevation of the required receptacle outlet can be below the basin, as long as it is on the adjacent wall. The NEC doesn't address this. I would like to have some thoughts as to whether or not this meets the "intent" of the code. Thanks in advance for your replies.

Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City

2017 / 2014 NEC & Related Books and Study Guides

#85960 - 08/22/03 12:52 PM Re: Bathroom receptacles  
dana1028  Offline
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 163
San Carlos, CA
Yes - the receptacle is permitted to below the basin (or counter top).

I quote Jeff Sergeant from NFPA.

At a recent update training class provided by NFPA to building inspectors he (Jeff) specifically addressed this item and assured attendees that a receptacle could be placed below the basin/counter level as long as the receptacle was within 36" of the basin.

#85961 - 08/22/03 01:08 PM Re: Bathroom receptacles  
Ryan_J  Offline
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,374
West Jordan, Utah, USA
Dana, As always, thanks for your reply. I told him that I would allow it, my basis was that the NEC didn't strictly prohibit it. Thanks again.

Ryan Jackson,
Salt Lake City

#85962 - 08/22/03 02:03 PM Re: Bathroom receptacles  
GTE  Offline
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 48
Bridgehampton, N.Y. USA
The inspectors in my area will approve basin receptacles if they aren't lower then 12" from the top of basin. The same a kitchen counter outlets.

#85963 - 08/22/03 03:36 PM Re: Bathroom receptacles  
pauluk  Offline
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 7,520
Norfolk, England
We had a similar query over this point a while ago:

Does anyone know if Virgil's proposal was ever submitted? If so, what was the outcome?

#85964 - 08/22/03 04:43 PM Re: Bathroom receptacles  
Joe Tedesco  Offline
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 2,749
Boston, Massachusetts USA
The current proposed 2005 NEC change shows some relief:

Panel Meeting Action: Accept in Principle

In the 2002 NEC, delete the word "wall" in the first sentence so that it reads:

"In dwelling units, at least one receptacle outlet shall be installed in bathrooms within 900 mm (3 ft) of the outside edge of each basin."

Also add an exception to 210.52(D) to read:

"Exception: The receptacle shall not be required to be mounted in the wall or partition where it is installed on the face of the basin cabinet not more than 300 m (12 in.) below the countertop."

Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

Member Spotlight
Brick, NJ USA
Posts: 6,826
Joined: April 2002
Show All Member Profiles 

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.013s Queries: 14 (0.003s) Memory: 0.7761 MB (Peak: 0.9216 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-05-29 13:16:06 UTC