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#85082 - 05/28/03 08:34 AM Shoild This Be Removed??  
Joe Tedesco  Offline
Joined: Oct 2000
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Boston, Massachusetts USA
[Linked Image]

Do you think that this type of wiring, left abandonded, should be removed if not in use or at least tagged or otherwise identified to indicate that it should not be energized?

I think I saw a rule in NFPA 1, does anyone have that publication so that we can compare the rule calling for removal?

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#85083 - 05/28/03 09:12 AM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??  
Ron  Offline
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 582
White Plains, NY
NFPA 1 Uniform Fire Code 2003 Edition
"11.1.4 Permanent wiring abandoned in place shall be tagged or otherwise identified at its termination and junction points as “Abandoned in Place” or removed from all accessible areas and insulated from contact with other live electrical wiring or devices."


#85084 - 05/29/03 04:57 PM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??  
sparky  Offline
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Posts: 5,311
That's actually better looking that 1/2 the stuff that is in use here.

Tagging (actually i would use permanent marker) would seem an easy request

#85085 - 05/29/03 06:02 PM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??  
Bjarney  Offline
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Posts: 2,527
West-Southern Inner-Northeast ...
For some areas, one approach might be a sign: "Keep Out -- Security Alarm Power." That could almost guarantee off-hours 'demolition'.

#85086 - 05/29/03 07:14 PM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??  
Roger  Offline
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Posts: 1,716
What defines "abandoned"? Is the meter pulled only until the next tenant apply's for power?


#85087 - 06/13/03 02:19 AM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??  
LoneStar  Offline
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 14
Victoria, TX 77901
hey , i could use that ol stuff at the farm!! LOL thats what my plumber buddy always says when he looks in back of my truck and sees ancient artifacts of electrical history [Linked Image]

[This message has been edited by LoneStar (edited 06-13-2003).]

#85088 - 06/16/03 09:05 AM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??  
GEO  Offline
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 47
have asked this many times,sometimes it causes attitude from some for asking.I--would require it to be removed, based on the PMC ,install and maintained in safe approved manner and 100i is required. GEO

#85089 - 06/24/03 10:10 PM Re: Shoild This Be Removed??  
John Steinke  Offline
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 518
Reno,Nv., USA
I am sure that the utility will be happy to remove their feeders- if they haven't already.
The new code requires 100 amp service- so a service change is in the future for this location (the meter ring shown is only rated for 60 amps).

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