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Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #84991
05/22/03 09:34 AM
05/22/03 09:34 AM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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The 2005 NEC will include a new requirement stating that green insulation or green with a yellow stripe are only permitted to be used for the identification of the equipment grounding conductor.

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[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 05-25-2003).]


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Re: Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #84992
05/22/03 11:00 AM
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[This message has been edited by dana1028 (edited 05-22-2003).]

Re: Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #84993
05/22/03 12:27 PM
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The proposed wording says that any conductor "identified as permitted" in this section shall
only be used as an EGC. The use of a bare wire is permitted to identify an EGC, this will mean that bare conductors are no longer permitted to be used as grounding electrode conductors.
Don


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Re: Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #84994
05/22/03 12:55 PM
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Is there a similar proposal for white and white/red colors with grounded-circuit conductors?

The hazards seem similar to those cited by Phil Simmons for green and green/yellow.

Re: Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #84995
05/22/03 02:42 PM
05/22/03 02:42 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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Don:

I think that the new sentence makes it clear that the color green or green with a yellow strip will not be allowed to be used to identify the GEC.

The comment stage is where any changes proposed to the original accepted actions can be made by any person who wants to send one in.



[This message has been edited by Joe Tedesco (edited 05-24-2003).]


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Re: Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #84996
05/22/03 02:47 PM
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Roger  Offline
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What would we do with all that bare solid larger than #10? [Linked Image]

Roger

Re: Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #84997
05/22/03 03:08 PM
05/22/03 03:08 PM
Joe Tedesco  Offline OP
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So then an exception to the rule above may be in order"

"Exception: Grounding electrode conductors shall be permitted to be bare."


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Re: Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #84998
05/22/03 03:25 PM
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Who would this change benifit?

Re: Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #84999
05/22/03 03:32 PM
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resqcapt19  Offline
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Joe,
You are correct that the new wording would prohibit the use of green for the grounding electrode conductor. My comment will be to "accept in principle" with the following words added at the end of the proposed wording, "or grounding electrode conductor".
Don


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Re: Green or Green With Yellow Stripe for EGC Only!! #85000
05/22/03 04:04 PM
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Why not identify the EGC with green and yellow stripes only and the GEC with green (or bare) only. Then the US would follow the international standard on the EGC identification [Linked Image] (I don't think there is a standard for the GEC)

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