I agree with mike holt. Maybe one day AFCI will live up to the sales pitch and scare tactics of salesmen. Untill that technology can extinguish a loose conection fault, I doubt it will ever save a life or prevent a fire.
#82225 - 10/26/0207:57 AMRe: Removing 210.8 from 2005 NEC
I would actually lose money if this were removed. 4 AFCI breakers @ $30.00 Ea = $120.00 my cost plus 30% markup in my pocket thats nine bucks per breaker. Now 30% on a $3.50 regular breaker is only a buck and some change. Which would you rather sell. I know so many guys who are always looking for the cheapest way out and I don't get. I use dimmers on everything when I do a kitchen remodel. I use undercabinet lights with tranformers and I sell electronic low voltage dimmers for these at ninety bucks a piece. There is a nice profit to be made without any addtional work if you just upgrade the materials.
#82226 - 10/26/0208:02 AMRe: Removing 210.8 from 2005 NEC
Sparky I see your point in regards to backing the product as it pertains to the AFCI. I was just gerneralizing on cost and profit. It will certainly be interesting to see where this goes. I suspect there are probably many of these afcis installed at a huge cost to homeowners. In my mind if you remove this now you are admitting a huge mistake and misrepresentation of the product which may get the lawyers scrambling for some class action on the behalf of duped consumers.
#82228 - 10/26/0210:55 AMRe: Removing 210.8 from 2005 NEC
66, Mostly t&m which keeps things pretty comfortable for me. If I do bid a job I bid it to make money and I use the materials that I figure the price with. I would not bid with the good stuff and then substitue it for el cheapo's. I must admit I have a better than average situation going here. I do work for a company that specializes in mid to high end kitchen remodels. www.kitchenassociates.com I bill clients directly with no middleman. All they ask in return is that I am there for them when they need me. I rarely have to bid a job with these guys as they sell me to the clients. Best part... money is rarely an issue, although I have noticed in the last couple of months that money is becoming more of an issue. Eh what was this topic about again...
[This message has been edited by Electricmanscott (edited 10-26-2002).]