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#82169 - 10/22/02 10:29 AM Dry wall installers  
Reel-Break  Offline
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What is the normal case when dry wall people cover over the outlets and i`m not sure of exact location. If I tear up sheet rock to find it shouldn`t they repair it? This has been the worst job I`ve ever seen 1" gaps around the boxes the rec are floating in the box with only the cover for real support.I`ll have to do extra work for this to work out.With contract written how do you make out in a situation like this?

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#82170 - 10/22/02 10:59 AM Re: Dry wall installers  
txsparky  Offline
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 552
Magnolia,.Texas U.S.A.
Have the drywall contractor find the boxes that he covered up and repair his own mistakes and then refuse to trim the job out untill the holes are repaired around the boxes.That wiil usually get the owner or general contractors attention.Once you have their attention,show them that 314.21 does not permit the gap around the box to be larger than 1/8 inch.


#82171 - 10/22/02 05:03 PM Re: Dry wall installers  
harold endean  Offline
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Posts: 2,233
Boonton, NJ
Reel break,

Ususaly I ask them nicely to find my hidden boxes. If the don't then I bring out my sledge hammer and tell them, that I will find it for them. That works most of the time. [Linked Image]

#82172 - 10/22/02 06:20 PM Re: Dry wall installers  
arseegee  Offline
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 324
Statesboro, GA USA
Rarely will I go to trim out a job and not have something covered up. We paint the floors so we know where the boxes are. I have had as many as 13 covered up in one house.

I do my best not to damage the drywall when I have to dig it out by using a piece of #12 stripped out with a sharp point on one end. You can feel when you hit the box and if you miss it only takes a little spackle to fill th hole.

If you p*ss off a sheetrocker then they can make life miserable by routing off all your wires and covering up as much as they can get away with. I try to respect their work the same way they respect mine.

#82173 - 10/22/02 08:05 PM Re: Dry wall installers  
txsparky  Offline
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 552
Magnolia,.Texas U.S.A.
I wouldn't look for 13 boxes without someone paying my labor for it,and if you backcharge for repairing damaged wire,that s@$t will stop,too.


#82174 - 10/22/02 08:22 PM Re: Dry wall installers  
sparky  Offline
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 5,311

2nd that, but i do point these things out to my GC's.

with a twist.....

~ the new energy seminars would dictate a qt of condensation per yr on a tightly routed device, and 30 qts per yr on loose ones..

~your device life will suffer from instability, as well as the added attraction of condensation.

~anyone can drywall, as well as anyone can BE a drywaller tommorrow ,the cast of Dumb & Dumber could drywall.....
but it takes a decade to produce a well rounded sparky......please prioritize...

#82175 - 10/23/02 09:26 AM Re: Dry wall installers  
electric-ed  Offline
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 175
It has been my observation that "anyone" can't drywall and do it the way it should be done.

I have seen good, and not so good jobs.


#82176 - 10/23/02 02:18 PM Re: Dry wall installers  
electrician02125  Offline
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 89
It makes me cringe when these board hangers break out the zip tool and plunge it into what they think might be the location of the box. I have actually had them cut round holes around a square box.

If they do not respect my work then I sure as SH** won't respect theirs.

Break out the hammer and let them drag their behinds back into repair the sloppy results of their inability to use a tape measure.

#82177 - 10/23/02 04:36 PM Re: Dry wall installers  
spyder  Offline
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 210
I also mark the floor where boxes and recessed lites are located. To help safeguard against the rotozip I try to carefully fold my wires as far as possible towards the back of the box, but even this does not always guarantee against nicked and cut wires. I have also been taking digital pics on bigger jobs.
I spend a bit of time "chisling" out plaster.

The bottom line is sheetrockers and plasterers get paid by the square foot. They are rewarded for speed and we do suffer because of it.

#82178 - 10/23/02 05:17 PM Re: Dry wall installers  
RandyO  Offline
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30
what can you do.

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