A good friend of mine asked me a question and I didn't have an answer. What do you guys think? What defines a kitchen? The reason is that my friend was wiring a basement and the was going to be some cabinents,contertop and a sink. No big deal. It would be a wet bar. So far so good. Then came a small refrig. under the countertop. Next came a dishwasher. My friend called for inspection. Now the inspector failed him. Why? The inspector called this area a "kitchen". Therefore he needed 3 more outlets on the countertop. This way he could meet the 2'-4' rule. My friend said that there were no means of cooking. The AHJ said that you could add a microwave, therefore it is a kitchen. Any comments?
This is a good one. I recently wired a billiard room in a house. The room had counter,fridge, and sink. I treated it simply as a wet bar, which is exactly what it is. Passed inspection. I think the inspector is going a bit far here. There are many "What ifs" we see everyday.
We have been wiring quite a few pool houses lately and they usually have a dishwasher, disposal, and microwave. The inspectors will not permit the installation of an oven or cooktop because they would consider it a second kitchen.
I think that the inspector is reading too much into this installation. I don't believe he should have called it a kitchen. It should have been called a wet bar. In our code book the definition of a "bathroom means that you need a basin and one or more of the following: a toilet, a tub,or a shower." Maybe a code change should read: The definition of a kitchen you need a stove/cooktop/range/oven and one or more of the following, a sink, a refrigerator, or a dishwasher. I want to send in a code change but I just have to think about how to write it.
Joule-E do we need mouth in the definition I'd hate to think what they're doing to the food. Do we need a health dept inspection?
Straight from the dictionary- a room with cooking facilities. I don't buy your inspectors comment that you could add a stove. I could add a stove to my bedroom, a microwave in my closet.
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Webster's Dictionary Main Entry: kitch·en Pronunciation: 'ki-ch&n Function: noun Etymology: Middle English kichene, from Old English cycene, from Late Latin coquina, from Latin coquere to cook Date: before 12th century 1 : a place (as a room) with cooking facilities 2 : the personnel that prepares, cooks, and serves food
If there is plentiful counter space in a situation like this. Would homeowner install a plug strip to plug in his blender, toaster oven and 10 other appliances?
But, would he be running those all at the same time?
I guess that would depend on the margarita output of the blender.
I vote on the side of safety.. wire it to the kitchen requirement. A couple of outlets are cheap in retrospect. He can get a change order= more$$$. And it will enhance his future relationship with the inspector.
TE by your own definition this is NOT a kitchen. I will say it again, we can not cover every "what if" when doing a job. And not everyone wants to pay for every possible thing that may or may not happen.