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#79666 - 01/11/02 08:18 AM Definition of a Kitchen  
Joe Tedesco  Offline
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Boston, Massachusetts USA
E. Cobham Brewer 1810–1897. Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. 1898.


Pretended or mongrel Latin. An excellent example is Stevens’ definition of a kitchen: 1
As the law classically expresses it, a kitchen is “camera necessaria pro usus cookare; cum saucepannis, stewpannis, scullero, dressero, coalholo, stovis, smoak-jacko; pro roastandum, boilandum, fryandum, et plum-pudding-mixandum… .”—A Law Report (Daniel v. Dishclout).

Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

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#79667 - 01/11/02 08:38 AM Re: Definition of a Kitchen  
electure  Offline

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Posts: 4,261
Fullerton, CA USA
Would an updated version have to include a microwavus, disposa garbaga, and a Plato washer?(edited for confession...Plato was a Greek)

[This message has been edited by electure (edited 01-11-2002).]

#79668 - 01/11/02 10:48 AM Re: Definition of a Kitchen  
Joe Tedesco  Offline
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Boston, Massachusetts USA
electure: Yes, and don't forget the videous; tveous; vcreous on the kitchen counters!

Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

#79669 - 01/11/02 04:41 PM Re: Definition of a Kitchen  
pauluk  Offline
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Posts: 7,520
Norfolk, England
Reminds me of some mock-German automotive terms I once saw. I can only remember a few now:

die Spitzenpoppenbangentuben = exhaust
der Tickentockenturnenblinker = turn signal
das Flippenflappenglassen = wipers
die Klunkundklickenfrauleintrapper = seat belt

(The last one from a British seat-belt campaign slogan of the 1970s: "Clunk-Click Every Trip")

#79670 - 01/11/02 05:36 PM Re: Definition of a Kitchen  
NJwirenut  Offline
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Posts: 806
Bergen County, NJ
Or this old one, commonly posted in hamshacks and computer rooms:

ACHTUNG! Alles touristen und non-technischen peepers!

Das machine control is nicht fur gerfinger-poken und
mittengrabben. Oderwise is easy schnappen der springenwerk,
blowen fuse, und poppencorken mit spitzensparken.

Der machine is diggen by experten only. Is nicht fur geverken
by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseenen keepen das
cotten picken hands in das pockets, so relaxen und watchen das

#79671 - 01/11/02 06:09 PM Re: Definition of a Kitchen  
Chris Rudolph  Offline
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 160
Winter Park,Fl USA
Y'all should write for Sat night live.Thanks for the laugh.


#79672 - 01/11/02 06:58 PM Re: Definition of a Kitchen  
BuggabooBren  Offline
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Posts: 328
Also sounds like some fictional medical conditions I read in a back issue of Sports Illustrated:

Garthritis: the crippling condition when a major league, minor league, or farm team accomodates celebrities in their lineup.

(Now I'm going to have to go back to the Motor Vehicle Dept. to write down/swipe the old magazine that it came out of since I can only remember that one entry....)

#79673 - 01/12/02 02:05 PM Re: Definition of a Kitchen  
Joe Tedesco  Offline
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Posts: 2,749
Boston, Massachusetts USA
I found a definition for a kitchen in a fire station in the NFPH :

Kitchen: For a staffed station, the kitchen quickly becomes an essential part of the building.

The kitchen is where the fire fighters take their meals and take their breaks.

The eating area of the kitchen can also be used for training.

The cooking area should be of commercial quality, due to the almost constant use of the kitchen.

In a station with two or three full companies and a chief, the kitchen can be called upon to serve upwards of sixty meals per day, every day.

If the kitchen is used in conjunction with a community room or other similar space that is, or may become, accessible to the public, then even more meals can be expected to be served in an emergency situation.

Part of the kitchen must be reserved for storage of food, and each shift expected to use the station should have a separate space for food.

The kitchen should also be equipped with a dishwasher.

This will ensure that, even if the station has a busy day, there will be clean dishes for meals.

The size of the kitchen should be designed similar to a commercial kitchen, and the dining area also should be designed based upon the number of expected diners.

The 2002 NEC, in Section 210.8(B) requires that a kitchen (in other than dwelling units) have all 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed in the locations specified in (1), (2), and (3) shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personel:

(1) Bathrooms

(2) Rooftops

(3) Kitchens

I think that the NEC should require receptacles to be installed in all kitchens.

Joe Tedesco, NEC Consultant

#79674 - 01/13/02 03:35 PM Re: Definition of a Kitchen  
pauluk  Offline
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Posts: 7,520
Norfolk, England
Love it! I guess we really should apologize to our Austrian friend here for mangling his language so badly for our amusement though [Linked Image]

On a more serious note following Joe's comments though, I've often wondered about whether we should have minimum outlet requirements written into our Regs. We have nothing to match the NEC's "receptacle every 12 ft." type of rule. Our Regs. only specify how the apparatus fitted must be installed, not what the min. apparatus should be.

#79675 - 01/26/02 11:38 AM Re: Definition of a Kitchen  
Frank Cinker  Offline
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 311

What is NFPH. Can it be found online?

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