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UNDER CAB. 20W HALOGEN PUCK LIGHTS #5137
11/05/01 04:42 PM
11/05/01 04:42 PM
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hawaiianfan@cs.com  Offline OP
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Kahului, HI USA
LOW VOLTAGE LIGHTING PLAGUES ME AGAIN.
WHAT ARE THE 96 & 99 CODE ACTUAL REQUIREMENTS FOR LOCATION AND METHOD OF WIRING LOW VOLTAGE 10 / 20W UNDERCAB PUCK LIGHTS.
ROMEX TERMINATED UNDER THE CAB. WIRED TO A CLASS 2 L.V.60W ELECTRONIC TRANSFORMER. 3 X 10W -12V PUCKS ARE WIRED TO THE T/F ALL LOCATED UNDER THE KITCHEN CAB.
A DECORATIVE FALSE BOTTOM THEN COVERS ALL THE WIRING FOR OBVIOUS REASONS OF AESTHETICS.
INSPECTOR SAY THIS DOES NOT COMPLY WITH CODE.
SAME INSPECTION DEPARTMENT THAT WILL NOT ACCEPT REMOTE LV T/F BEING WIRED WHERE THE SECONDARY / LV CIRCUIT WIRES SHARE THE SAME CAVITY OR WALL SPACE?
WHERE DO I GO FOR A CLEAR PICTURE OF DO'S & DON'T ON LV WIRING OF RESIDENTIAL INTERIOR LIGHTING? SORRY TO BE A PAIN!

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Re: UNDER CAB. 20W HALOGEN PUCK LIGHTS #5138
11/06/01 06:54 AM
11/06/01 06:54 AM
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sparky  Offline
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Hi Hawaiianfan;
I am up in art 725, starting with 725.21(a) (2002). I believe that's a good place for this thread to start, especially if your inspector is not quoting a particular code violated. [Linked Image]

Also, what, if any, do the installation instructions include for wiring methods?

hopefully others will chime in..

hint, hint... [Linked Image]

Re: UNDER CAB. 20W HALOGEN PUCK LIGHTS #5139
11/06/01 08:36 AM
11/06/01 08:36 AM
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Redsy  Offline
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sparky,
Is there a 99 reference.

hawaiian,
What type of cable are you using on the secondary? are you passing through the building structure? could you install a receptacle and plug-in xfmr?

Re: UNDER CAB. 20W HALOGEN PUCK LIGHTS #5140
11/06/01 08:39 AM
11/06/01 08:39 AM
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Bucks County PA
While we're on the subject...
I noticed spools of t-stat wire in the bins below the LV cabinet lighting section at the local SuperStore. Is this acceptable as LV extension wiring between cabinet lights?

Re: UNDER CAB. 20W HALOGEN PUCK LIGHTS #5141
11/06/01 09:55 PM
11/06/01 09:55 PM
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Jim M  Offline
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Chestertown, MD, USA
The lights I have used from Seagull use a 10 ga. wire that looks like zip cord for the secondary. I run this exposed under the cabinets. The only places it is covered is when it passes thru the cabinet sides. I normally mount the xfmr above the cabinets.

I would like to see a Code reference to justify his violation of your method.

Re: UNDER CAB. 20W HALOGEN PUCK LIGHTS #5142
11/06/01 10:35 PM
11/06/01 10:35 PM
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hawaiianfan@cs.com  Offline OP
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Kahului, HI USA
Aloha ,
I am a supplier of Fans & Lighting and specify residential lighting.
This LV wiring seems to plague me only on the island of Kauai. I have specified many Jobs here on Maui and have never encountered problems like I do on Kauai.
Kauai is on 96 code. Maui has been on 99 code for only a year so we are somewhat in the "Dark" ages!
My question is: Can a heavy duty 500w / 300w Magnetic or Electronic Low Voltage transformer be installed in an attic for servicing reasons and size?
If the feed line is the same as the output line 12/2 in and 12/2 out-CAN IT BE RUN ALONG THE SAME STUD WITHIN A DRY WALL CAVITY?
Thanks for all you help and sorry to be a Dunce!


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