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Grey wire nuts #48317
02/09/05 10:22 AM
02/09/05 10:22 AM
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JRCAINSR  Offline OP
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HUDSON MA.
Can you properly splice 6 or 8 #12 under a grey wire nut. I have had nothing but problems with splice coming apart.

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Re: Grey wire nuts #48318
02/09/05 10:38 AM
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Roger  Offline
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N.C.
You can splice up to (6) #12's, go to the link below for one manufacturers info.

click on the "Wing Twist" type
http://www.idealindustries.com/wt/TwistOnWireConnectors.nsf

Roger

[This message has been edited by Roger (edited 02-09-2005).]

Re: Grey wire nuts #48319
02/09/05 12:34 PM
02/09/05 12:34 PM
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Dave55  Offline
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Crystal Lake, Illinois, USA
Try stripping all the wires, lining them up together and wrapping tape tightly around them near the end. This keeps them all lined up. It's easier if you're using stranded wire. If it still gives you trouble, use a split bolt.

Dave

Re: Grey wire nuts #48320
02/09/05 12:47 PM
02/09/05 12:47 PM
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hbiss  Offline
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Hawthorne, NY USA
People usually have problems because the conductors are too short to hold and/or the stripped ends are not lined up or long enough.

When I do this I strip a little more than what is needed, line them all up, pre-twist, then cut the end off to the proper length. Never had a problem with even more than 6 or 8 #12s and the proper wire nut.

-Hal

Re: Grey wire nuts #48321
02/09/05 01:24 PM
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macmikeman  Offline
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Honolulu, Hawaii
I have never been a great fan of that many wires under one wirenut whether it is a gray or a big blue. My work around in those same situations is to make what I call a bridge splice. Its simple - four of the wires under one wire nut and four of the wires under another wire nut with a jumper from one wirenut to the other one. Granted you will use an extra gray wirenut, but for me its peace of mind. Or go with the split bolt as has been said. Those cost $6 bucks for the #2 size here nowadays.

Re: Grey wire nuts #48322
02/09/05 01:57 PM
02/09/05 01:57 PM
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earlydean  Offline
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Griswold, CT, USA
If you go with the split-bolt you run the risk of a red tag. Split bolts are listed for 2 conductors only.


Earl
Re: Grey wire nuts #48323
02/09/05 02:36 PM
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SolarPowered  Offline
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Palo Alto, CA, USA
I recall reading that, in Europe, they have splicing devices that consist of an insulated bar with individual holes to recieve each wire, and a compression screw for each wire. Very neat, and very secure connections. Is anything like that available in the US?

[This message has been edited by SolarPowered (edited 02-09-2005).]

Re: Grey wire nuts #48324
02/09/05 03:00 PM
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winnie  Offline
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boston, ma
There are various block of this sort available in the US, eg:
http://www.polarisconnectors.com/index.html

I don't know if there are _smaller_ size versions available, but the large ones are a great replacement for split bolts.

-Jon

Re: Grey wire nuts #48325
02/09/05 04:24 PM
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SolarPowered  Offline
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Palo Alto, CA, USA
That's exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of. The smallest one they have is for #4-14, so it's really huge for splicing #12.

Is there anything smaller around?

Re: Grey wire nuts #48326
02/09/05 04:53 PM
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highkvoltage  Offline
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Massillon, Ohio, USA
If your look at any container that wire nuts came in they have a chart on the side. I have never seen on any of those charts show you can put more than 5 wires under a single connector. I believe method of shoving all these wires under one wire nut is poor. This must be a heck of a big juction box.

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