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#46405 - 12/21/04 11:43 PM Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
pauluk  Offline
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Seems there might be a few things to criticize here:
http://www.dulley.com/diy/dw107.htm


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#46406 - 12/22/04 06:34 AM Re: Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
Steve Miller  Offline
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Don't ya just love it?


#46407 - 12/22/04 05:42 PM Re: Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
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The National Electrical Code now requires No. 12 gauge wire for all residential electrical wiring.

Huh? [Linked Image] [Linked Image]


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#46408 - 12/22/04 07:46 PM Re: Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
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The National Electrical Code now requires No. 12 gauge wire for all residential electrical wiring.


wow, it good i read that link. i had origionally thought that the wire size is dependant on the breaker size. now i am more educated and know that the NEC requires No. 12 on all circuits. today i ripped out the 8 gauge going to my stove and the 10 gauge going to my dryer and replaced them with 12 gauge. tomorrow im going to go buy some more 12 gauge to replace that dangerously oversized feeder going to the 100 amp subpanel in my garage

[Linked Image]


#46409 - 12/22/04 08:38 PM Re: Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
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Outdoor wiring projects are not difficult for a do-it-yourselfer, but, for safety reasons, outdoor wiring codes must be followed.

I was unaware of the NEC Outdoor Code- it would make much more sense to incorporate it in the standard NEC [Linked Image]

No mention of load evaluation in the circuit to be extended, either- Grrrr!!!!!!


No wire bias here- I'm standing on neutral ground.

#46410 - 12/22/04 10:17 PM Re: Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
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Dig the trench. If you are using EMT conduit or UF cable, the trench should be 12 inches deep. Rigid metal or plastic conduit requires a 6-inch depth


This must be the question I missed on my license exam. I thought that in most circumstances UF needed to 24" deep in a yard unless covered with 2" of concrete. I didn't even know you could bury EMT and I thought rigid needed to be 18". I guess you learn something every day.


#46411 - 12/22/04 10:59 PM Re: Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
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RMC only needs 6" except underneath things like driveways, parking areas (that's "car parks" to you, Paul [Linked Image] ), and runways.


#46412 - 12/22/04 11:43 PM Re: Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
Sir Arcsalot  Offline
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How deep should the trench be to bury the rotten advice of some of those DYI (Do-Yourself-In) websites??? I won't mention the six-foot rule for the webmasters of those sites hehehe...


No wire bias here- I'm standing on neutral ground.

#46413 - 12/23/04 05:46 PM Re: Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
pauluk  Offline
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Aw, shoot! You mean I shouldn't rely on that site as an educatiuonal resource for American outdoor wiring practices? [Linked Image]

The #12 for all circuits is the first thing that caught my attention there.


#46414 - 12/24/04 09:45 AM Re: Weekend DIY outdoor wiring  
electure  Offline


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The author's e-mail info is:

contact@dulley.com

To publish irresponsible information like this while posing as an "expert"?.

Eagle [Linked Image]
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I didn't even know you could bury EMT



[Linked Image]

This was actually inside a building where the penetration went outside. The rest was indistinguishable as conduit.



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