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#44428 - 11/03/04 09:11 PM It's Been Like That For 50 Years  
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I never quite know what to say when someone says their wiring has been like that 50 years and hasn't been any problem. If you don't know what I mean, look in any of the hundreds of pictures in the photo section.

Any ideas of how to respond?

Dave


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#44429 - 11/03/04 11:07 PM Re: It's Been Like That For 50 Years  
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Something to the effect of....
OK, then eliminate all the modern convenience items that you did NOT have 50 years ago, and it will survive.

Or....
"It's getting old & worn out, just like you"

or....
"Gee, you had a microwave, coffee maker, big TV, fridge, jacuzzi, etc, etc 50 years ago???"

John


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#44430 - 11/03/04 11:41 PM Re: It's Been Like That For 50 Years  
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One thing I try to make them understand is the importance of the electricity to STOP working when necessary. Altho sometimes it's hopeless I know. I can remember explaining to a lady all about the reputation for FPE breakers not tripping when they should then when I was all done she replied "Well we've never had any problems with ours, in fact I don't think we've ever had one trip".


#44431 - 11/03/04 11:55 PM Re: It's Been Like That For 50 Years  
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Lol to bigb thats because FPE = a No Trip circuit NOT_breaker laugh


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#44432 - 11/04/04 04:45 PM Re: It's Been Like That For 50 Years  
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I can remember explaining to a lady all about the reputation for FPE breakers not tripping when they should then when I was all done she replied "Well we've never had any problems with ours, in fact I don't think we've ever had one trip".


That reminds me of a reply I once heard in response to a question about what size fuse would be fitted for a given appliance.

"If I was in doubt, I'd fit the largest fuse possible. It would be safer that way because there's less chance of it blowing." [Linked Image]


#44433 - 11/04/04 05:27 PM Re: It's Been Like That For 50 Years  
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Explain that the Code is continually revised (on a 3 years cycle) by electrical experts working with the National Fire Protection Association, based on real-world experience with installations similar to what they have in their occupancy,

(OK - bonus if you can say the whole thing with a straight face [Linked Image]

LOL - Code Committees = reality - ROFL)

and any upgrade / rewires you're recommending are for their safety and the eventual sale-ability of their property.


You can also explain (or try) that there isn't a "length of service" guarantee/warantee by the manufacturer of any type of electrical product that extends to 20,30,40 years or so...

Of course, when in doubt, yoou can always revert to:

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Just because it worked doesn't mean it's safe.



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