DougW makes a good point for sure, as far as where to recover the costs. Most Union rules / bylaws include a list of hand tools that an electrician must have in his tool bag - this list varies WILDLY from local to local: I've heard of differences from 25 to 75 tools, ranging from screwdrivers of several sizes and types, folding rules, several channellock pliers, drills and taps, hacksaw frame, nut drivers, and on and on. Does anybody know if the non-union groups like IEC have required tool lists for their members?
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#43753 - 10/22/0401:01 AMRe: Required equipment? employer, or employee
This is probably a pretty unusual situation. When I started in industrial maintenance with the Postal Service, I was told that they would provide all the tools I needed and I was not allowed to bring any personal tools into the facility. That came as a real shock but, after 20 years of buying tools for work elsewhere, I sure have a nice set of tools at home now. They also provide a clothing allowance for all the maintenance employees
#43758 - 10/25/0404:46 AMRe: Required equipment? employer, or employee
Personally, when I was doing EC work, we provided our own hand tools, which in a sense was a better system, because if you lost or damaged a particular tool, it came out of your pocket to replace it. You also bought your own safety boots, but were paid a footwear allowance. Overalls were supplied by the employer and were also laundered at the cost of the employer. All other safety equipment was also supplied by the employer.
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#43759 - 10/25/0405:58 AMRe: Required equipment? employer, or employee
The reason I ask is that I am trying to interpet a set of and Health/Safety, and Labor Codes. And seeing that many of us are at least apt to be able to interpet the NEC and other Codes, maybe we could give it a shot? Cause the way I read this is that I should nevr buy anything again.....
(A) When the employer requires uniforms to be worn by the employee as a condition of employment, such uniforms shall be provided and maintained by the employer. The term "uniform" includes wearing apparel and accessories of distinctive design or color.
(B) When the employer requires the use of tools or equipment or they are necessary for the performance of a job, such tools and equipment shall be provided and maintained by the employer, except that an employee whose wages are at least two (2) times the minimum wage may provide and maintain hand tools and equipment customarily required by the particular trade or craft in conformity with Labor Code Section 2802.
2802. (a) An employer shall indemnify his or her employee for all necessary expenditures or losses incurred by the employee in direct consequence of the discharge of his or her duties, or of his or her obedience to the directions of the employer, even though unlawful, unless the employee, at the time of obeying the directions, believed them to be unlawful. (b) All awards made by a court or by the Division of Labor Standards Enforcement for reimbursement of necessary expenditures under this section shall carry interest at the same rate as judgments in civil actions. Interest shall accrue from the date on which the employee incurred the necessary expenditure or loss. (c) For purposes of this section, the term "necessary expenditures or losses" shall include all reasonable costs, including, but not limited to, attorney's fees incurred by the employee enforcing the rights granted by this section.
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