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Are these still available? #43684
10/20/04 03:35 PM
10/20/04 03:35 PM
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stmarys  Offline OP
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2
Oswego, NY, USA
Hi All! New member here.

I work maintenance for a large church built in 1850. A lot of things we have around here have been here a long time, including these:

[Linked Image]

They are used to stop people from switching off breakers that shouldn't be touched (ie. refrigerators, water heaters, etc.). Anyone know if and where these are still available?

Thanks,
Joe


St. Mary's Maintenance
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Re: Are these still available? #43685
10/20/04 03:43 PM
10/20/04 03:43 PM
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Dave55  Offline
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Joined: May 2004
Posts: 697
Crystal Lake, Illinois, USA
I don't know about those items, stmarys, but you can get LOTOs that will keep people from turning off the switches.

Dave

Re: Are these still available? #43686
10/20/04 03:45 PM
10/20/04 03:45 PM
Trumpy  Offline

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Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 8,231
SI,New Zealand
Hi there Joe.
Welcome to ECN!. [Linked Image]
I don't personally like the idea of fitting a device to a circuit breaker that prevents it from tripping, it sort of negates having the breaker in the first place. [Linked Image]

Mike :]

Re: Are these still available? #43687
10/20/04 04:15 PM
10/20/04 04:15 PM
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CharlieE  Offline
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Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 200
Indianapolis
Mike, circuit breakers are required to be trip free. That means that even if the handle were locked, the internal mechanism would still operate. What it will do is prevent you from resetting the circuit breaker after it trips. [Linked Image]

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Charlie Eldridge, Indianapolis, Utility Power Guy


Charlie Eldridge, Indianapolis Utility Power Guy
Re: Are these still available? #43688
10/20/04 04:15 PM
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iwire  Offline
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,391
North Attleboro, MA USA
Mike not to worry our breakers will trip even if you glue the handle.

All these do is keep people from turning off breakers that must stay on.

The one in the picture fits Square D breakers and is still available


Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician
Massachusetts
Re: Are these still available? #43689
10/20/04 04:16 PM
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ComputerWizKid  Offline
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Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 119
Connecticut, USA
How does one go about putting that on? and trumppy when a breaker trips it will trip even if the handle is held in place (I think) thants why you have to reingage the handle after it trips by pushing all the off and back on


Theres always enough room in the junction box.You just need a bigger hammer
Re: Are these still available? #43690
10/20/04 04:52 PM
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ElectricAL  Offline
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Posts: 597
Minneapolis, MN USA


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Re: Are these still available? #43691
10/20/04 06:28 PM
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stmarys  Offline OP
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Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2
Oswego, NY, USA
Thanks a lot everyone! To address the question of whether the breakers will still trip with this clamp in place, yes. We've had them trip before. A special thanks to ElectricAL! I'm going to order a bunch tomorrow.


St. Mary's Maintenance
Re: Are these still available? #43692
10/20/04 06:42 PM
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golf junkie  Offline
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Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 507
York, NE
They are commonly found on Fire Alarm and similar loads in my area.

Re: Are these still available? #43693
10/20/04 09:25 PM
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e57  Offline
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Joined: May 2003
Posts: 2,876
S.F.,CA USA
"question of whether the breakers will still trip with this clamp in place, yes. We've had them trip before."

Not that they will trip, but "trip free" (Very important!), not all breakers will trip free, meaning that the handle can be held closed and the breaker mechinism will still trip free of the handle. Not all breakers will.


Mark Heller
"Well - I oughta....." -Jackie Gleason
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