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wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43102
10/05/04 02:29 PM
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Do they make such a thing? The NEMA L5-30P is pretty big.

If not, how does one use these plugs as a permanent installation in a wet location?

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Re: wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43103
10/05/04 03:51 PM
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They do make such a thing, however most supply houses don't carry them as common stock. Ask for a Bell, Red Dot or Intermatic catalog and they do have some larger ones, that you can order. The common stocked ones are pretty shallow. Some are also made for a special slanted box, simular to a pin and sleeve connector type box.
http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/raco/RACO_datasheet.asp?PN=5784%2D0&FAM=BellWeatherproof&P=7630,7645,5640,5527



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Re: wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43104
10/05/04 04:06 PM
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Thanks Mark.

Re: wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43105
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Re: wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43106
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royta — If it’s a surface-mount installation, an “all in one” outdoor can, L5-30R receptacle and deep enough in-use cover may be available from Midwest Electric. A model U023 {or maybe U013} ordered as modified with an L5-30R may have reasonable price and delivery and make a ‘sanitary’ installation. It may be worth a phone call or email to them.

www.midwestelectric.com/marketing/literature/general/MEPC2004A_60-124.pdf




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Re: wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43107
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Re: wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43108
10/05/04 10:25 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

From the customer's information, and the previous EC's suggestion, I thought the customer's 120V spa needed to have a 30A circuit. After looking at it this evening, the 2 speed pump isn't dropping into low speed when the heater kicks on. So instead of the spa pulling 14A with the heater on, it's pulling 22A. Heater is 1.5 kW. Pump pulls 2.9A in low, and 11A in high.

I told him the spa would benefit from a dedicated 20A circuit and recep, but he'd need to have the spa repaired. As it is now, it's on a GP 15A circuit. I told the customer he should be glad the previous EC didn't have time to install a 30A circuit for his spa.

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Re: wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43109
10/05/04 10:57 PM
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Now reguardless of the plug and cover,what does the name-plate of this item say? That should be the basis of change on the plug, cover, breaker, or circuit for it.


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Re: wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43110
10/06/04 12:14 AM
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I didn't see a plate that covered the spa as a whole. There were plates for the heater and pump motor seperately. The combined load of the heater and pump motor, on low speed, is 14A. If it were designed to run on a higher amperage circuit, I think it would have a twist lock on the cord, instead of a standard 15A.

*edit - not necessarily a twist lock, but certainly something more than the standard 15A GFCI plug that is there from the factory.

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Re: wet in use cover for NEMA L5-30R? #43111
10/06/04 07:36 PM
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If this was shipped from the factory with a 15 GFCI cord cap, something else may be awry. This may have been a convertable unit. Meaning it could/should be re-wired in the field for the available voltage/amperage. Either on the control box inside, or inside it it should have a wiring diagram. That would either show the unit data, or if convertable, the diagram to change it, and both sets of data. Assuming this is a newer unit. Many these days are convertable, even if shipped as one model number with a certain voltage and amperage, it may be the same as a different model number with a different set of data, but the same unit. The factor just throws a different cord cap in the box, and leaves you to sort it out. If the name plate data is not available, I would suggest calling the rep for the manufacturer before connecting it. There may be a jumper or two to move allowing this to operate at the correct amperage, for the cord cap supplied. Not finding out the full picture could result in damage to the unit, or worse.


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