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#36704 - 04/13/04 11:58 AM Bellagio power outage  
classicsat  Offline
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Not sure what caused the failure, but they apaprently ran seconadry power in the same raceway as primary, so the couldn't even have secondary endergized when they inspected the primary.

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#36705 - 04/13/04 12:53 PM Re: Bellagio power outage  
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Naww, it's that "Pinch" they used on "Oceans' Eleven"! [Linked Image]

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That was the first thing I thought of when hearing the News of Power Loss at the Hotel / Casino.
Immediately spouted out about the "Pinch" and got some "Could it have been that???" looks from a few People!
(they were thinking Terrorists, not Vault Robbers).

Gee, Terry Benedict is gonna be P.O. again! [Linked Image]

Some humor attempts by me to brighten your day.


Scott " 35 " Thompson
Just Say NO To Green Eggs And Ham!

#36706 - 04/13/04 05:26 PM Re: Bellagio power outage  
JCooper  Offline
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 228
Kendall Park, NJ USA
Well I guess it was not such a good time for copper prices to go up..... Seems silly to me to have your primary and backup lines in the same duct, maybe this has something to do with the electrical gods from the village, maybe they are on vacation..

#36707 - 04/13/04 06:38 PM Re: Bellagio power outage  
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West-Southern Inner-Northeast ...
I don’t remember the name, but one of the newer Vegas superhotels now has a switchyard out back with a 115- or 138-kV subtransmission loop feed {two circuits} and a pair of 60,000kVA transformers. That’s “gettin’ up there” for a building electrical system.

I’m sure there will be some serious fingerpointing as a result of that outage.

[This message has been edited by Bjarney (edited 04-13-2004).]

#36708 - 04/13/04 11:39 PM Re: Bellagio power outage  
Nick  Offline
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Posts: 599
Riverside, CA
This situation kind of confuses me. I worked on Treasure Island when it was built. That place had multiple 12KV feeds, lots of unit subs and a huge central plant (in the parking structure) with multiple medium voltage back up generators. Bellagio is a bigger, newer hotel by the same developer and they say they lost everything!? I wonder if they will ever say what really happened. Those Vegas hotel jobs are absolutely massive in scope. I was one of 400 electricians on Treasure island. [Linked Image] (Memories [Linked Image] )

#36709 - 04/14/04 01:45 AM Re: Bellagio power outage  
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Bakersfield, CA (Originally Or...
LMAO Scott..... I'm on the same wavelength as you! Although..... There IS an ECN member that seems to frequent Las Vegas in search of electrical tomfoolery!
"Electure's idea of a fun time in Vegas is to rent a golf cart and peruse the alleyways for bad electrical, while I would rent the convertible and valet park at Bellagio.

Hmmmmmm? [Linked Image] ;p


#36710 - 04/14/04 09:00 PM Re: Bellagio power outage  
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Riverside, CA
However, the source said, Mirage Resorts, the original owner and builder of the megaresort, rejected the utility company's proposal, saying it didn't need a "Cadillac" system that ensured true redundancy to prevent a power failure such as the one experienced Sunday. Instead, the company chose to "take a chance" and have its own subcontractors build a system "on the cheap," the source said.

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#36711 - 04/14/04 09:09 PM Re: Bellagio power outage  
stamcon  Offline
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Posts: 329
So San Francisco CA
I wonder what the cost difference was, between what was and what should have been done and how much $ was lost(repairs and lost revenue), due to this incident?

#36712 - 04/14/04 09:09 PM Re: Bellagio power outage  
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Posts: 4,391
North Attleboro, MA USA
"Value Engineering" at it's best!

You got that right.

You think someone is now job hunting?

How much money do you think this outage cost?

How many miles of cable could have been installed for that price?

Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician

#36713 - 04/14/04 09:10 PM Re: Bellagio power outage  
iwire  Offline
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Posts: 4,391
North Attleboro, MA USA
Wow Stamcom [Linked Image]

Bob Badger
Construction & Maintenance Electrician

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