ECN Electrical Forum - Discussion Forums for Electricians, Inspectors and Related Professionals
ECN Shout Chat
Top Posters(30 Days)
Potseal 11
Recent Posts
600 KW 120/208 3 Phase Y protection
by SteveFehr. 07/23/17 09:46 AM
1913 American Electrician's Handbook
by gfretwell. 07/20/17 01:08 PM
Green House wiring
by ghost307. 07/20/17 09:10 AM
Permit Snafus...AHJs and Contractors Jump in
by HotLine1. 07/18/17 08:06 PM
New in the Gallery:
SE cable question
Popular Topics(Views)
239,260 Are you busy
174,689 Re: Forum
167,090 Need opinion
Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 65 guests, and 11 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate This Thread
Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4
#32750 - 01/01/04 10:03 PM puck lights  
ga.sparky56  Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 558
young harris georgia usa
OK,I,ve heard some of you talk about puck lights for uc lighting. The lights in question are 120v halogens recessed into the cabinetry.

I've never done any of these,whats the best way to rough for them?

Russell


Work Gear for Electricians and the Trades

#32751 - 01/02/04 12:15 AM Re: puck lights  
pforte  Offline
Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 18
NY
I would be interested in this info as well. In my area it is the consensus that there is no good way to legally install 120V puck lights. Most supply houses won't even carry them anymore.


Wiring is no hobby

#32752 - 01/02/04 02:30 AM Re: puck lights  
mlk682  Offline
Member
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 48
Foley Mn
The last time I installed them I left a whip of greenfield buried in the wall. When the cabinets were being hung I drilled a 1/2 hole in the bottom lip of the back of the cabinet. I ran that out to a single gang wire mold box. I transitioned in that box to wire mold and ran the whip of the puck in wire mold.I mounted all of this under the cabinet where you could not see it,but it could have been done in the very back of the cabinet too.


#32753 - 01/02/04 04:07 PM Re: puck lights  
Electric-Ian  Offline
Member
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 18
Mazomanie, WI, USA
ga.sparky56 (aka Russell):

I am glad you asked this question, as I am right in a middle of a job with a similar situation. The only difference here is that the customer has two cabinets that have glass doors (to display china I presume) and wants accent lighting installed. She wants the light on the ceiling of the cabinet (all the shelves inside are glass as well), but the top of the cabinet is apprx. 1/4" thick and I don't feel that it is sturdy enough to mount a puck light, let alone withstand the heat (if it is halogen). The top of the cabinet is accessible so I can devise a better mounting system from the top, but need to verify that it complies w/the CODE and AHJ as acceptable & suitable for mounting the light.

Pforte, yes, it seems there just isn't a good way to install. My customer did buy some puck lights at HD and they were, in my opinion, a fire hazard waiting to happen so I told her I wouldn't install those until I could find something better.

If anyone has good suggestions on "puck" lighting I and the rest of us "posters" would be grateful!


#32754 - 01/02/04 05:34 PM Re: puck lights  
ElectricAL  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 597
Minneapolis, MN USA
Russell,

Recessed???

I'm guessing that this qualifies as certifiable head scratcher.

Is the fixture spec'd? If so, are the installation documents available on the web, or otherwise. Can you send them to Bill so he can post them for us?

I've done a couple installs of recessed low volt pucks in the underside of the upper cabinets, and that required several conversations with the cabinet maker, and even after that they still had to site modify the cabinets. I had to be certain to be present when they were onsite. A lot of extra time fiddling with the details.

The biggest single error is that the cabinet maker will take the physical dimensions of the light and make a cavity that will fit it like a glove but there will be no space for the cable connector.


Al Hildenbrand

#32755 - 01/02/04 06:16 PM Re: puck lights  
ga.sparky56  Offline
Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 558
young harris georgia usa
All I can say at this point is that "recessed puck lights" were the words I heard from the homeowner.

The original specs were for low-voltage pucks.I have all kinds of info on the low voltage,but nothing so far on the 120v.

When I get something on 'em I'll post it.

Right now I too am scratching my head. [Linked Image]


#32756 - 01/02/04 08:44 PM Re: puck lights  
straightedge  Offline
Member
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 86
Mesa, AZ
The way I do them is install an outlet above the cabinets, horizontally. Do this for every independent group of cabinets.

Wire the outlets to a switch located next to the kitchen light switch.

The 120V puck lights come with a 6' cord installed. Screw the puck light under the cabinet with short screws. drill a small hole through the bottom, back in the corner.

Take the shelves out and cut the back corner of the shelves to allow the cord to run up the corner. Drill another hole through the top.

Install the supplied cord cap on the end of the 6' cord and plug it into the horizontal outlet.

Tev


#32757 - 01/02/04 08:50 PM Re: puck lights  
johnd24  Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 62
Try using symphony mini track by contek lighting......all your problems are solved...its awesome !!!!


#32758 - 01/02/04 09:28 PM Re: puck lights  
ElectricAL  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 597
Minneapolis, MN USA
John D

Google didn't return anything meaningful off of "contek lighting". . .can you provide more information?


Al Hildenbrand

#32759 - 01/02/04 09:41 PM Re: puck lights  
ElectricAL  Offline
Member
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 597
Minneapolis, MN USA
Belay that request. . .

I found Con-Tech Lighting .


Al Hildenbrand

Page 1 of 4 1 2 3 4

Member Spotlight
electure
electure
Fullerton, CA USA
Posts: 4,260
Joined: December 2000
Show All Member Profiles 
Featured:

2017 NEC and Related
2017 NEC
Now Available!

Shout Box
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0
Page Time: 0.018s Queries: 15 (0.005s) Memory: 0.8197 MB (Peak: 0.9960 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-07-24 00:52:42 UTC